Anyone using a 22lb Wolff Spring w/ guide rod (i use Don's) with an XD-9? Anyone having FTE issues? I had posted about some problems I was having, but I noticed that after I put the stock spring and rod back into my XD, I have had no issues at all and my accuracy is back to LETHAL!! Anyone have experience with this?? Can you explain why? Thanks
22lb. Wolff Springs and FTE
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If you are limp-wristing the pistol this will happen with a heavier spring. You are not so "limp" that it shows on the stock spring, but it is showing on the heavier spring. You can try a lighter spring, a firmer grip, or hotter ammo, or just stick with the factory spring.
Many people who have only shot revolvers in the past have similar things happen, as they are used to letting the wrist break with the recoil.
Many people who have only shot revolvers in the past have similar things happen, as they are used to letting the wrist break with the recoil.
Ack...I'm still trying to get over Don calling me "limp"!! Not sure what the heck is going on, but I have had nothing but strange results, since putting in the Rod and Spring. I know that pretty much everyone else has had no problems at all...obviously, from the lack of responses to my query... maybe I am just that one in a jillion-billion-trillion that has the jacked up one.
take a buddy to the range that is an experienced shooter, not implying you are not, but just get someone else who will know to look for limp wristing and the like. Have them shoot it. have them watch you shoot it. see if they get the same results.
I had one FTF and one FTE when i first put in the guide rod and spring. since then I have had none and have put atleast 600 more rounds through the gun.
I had one FTF and one FTE when i first put in the guide rod and spring. since then I have had none and have put atleast 600 more rounds through the gun.
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I wouldn't say jacked up, it is working like any heavier spring will. If your grip is not firm, then the psitol shifts and you lose slide velocity. This coupled with a standard spring still maintains enough velocity for proper ejection. Coupled with a heavier spring the slide becomes too slow to have the brass eject properly. Keeping a firmer grip will make it work again.DieTrying said:
I suggest lifting weights: go to 16oz. beers instead of 12oz. beers. :wink:
I had a series of failures to feed after installing a Wolff guide rod and spring. IMHO it appears to be a problem with the spring length. Virtually every other semi-auto pistol ever made uses the same metal guide rod and single spring type of setup as Don's and Wolff's, so it is not an inherent problem with the concept.
A failure to eject can be of several types. One is where the brass isn't ejected at all and remains in the chamber. Another is where the brass partly ejects but then gets caught up inside the gun, either as a stove pipe or jamming the slide partially open with the brass not extending outside of the slide at all.
Sometimes the problem is not enough momentum to clear the area before the slide slams shut, but it could also be that the extactor or ejector aren't doing their jobs. If it only happens with a particular guide rod and spring then it would seem to be related to those parts and not the extractor or ejector.
Is the slide operating smoothly with the current setup when you manually rack the slide?
22# sounds pretty stiff to me, but a lot depends on how that rating is measured. I think I'd try a softer spring and see if that solves the problem.
A failure to eject can be of several types. One is where the brass isn't ejected at all and remains in the chamber. Another is where the brass partly ejects but then gets caught up inside the gun, either as a stove pipe or jamming the slide partially open with the brass not extending outside of the slide at all.
Sometimes the problem is not enough momentum to clear the area before the slide slams shut, but it could also be that the extactor or ejector aren't doing their jobs. If it only happens with a particular guide rod and spring then it would seem to be related to those parts and not the extractor or ejector.
Is the slide operating smoothly with the current setup when you manually rack the slide?
22# sounds pretty stiff to me, but a lot depends on how that rating is measured. I think I'd try a softer spring and see if that solves the problem.
Actually, I have been shooting for many years and own a few handguns in different calibers. That is pretty much why I started this thread, I have not had any problems with any other guns, and maybe it is just coincidence, but I was not having so many issues until I changed the spring and rod...I really don't think it is the rod, hell, it just is a platform for the spring to recoil on...I was thinking that maybe the cycling had altered too much with the much heavier spring, after all, factory is 18lbs. and the Wolff is a 22 pounder...also, it is a 9mm. Most posts I have read, people were using it with a .40.
As for a firm grip, it is usually the last pistol I fire...I start with my .45 and then my .40 and then my 9mm...after years of shooting, I don't think that my grip is fatigued and again, I was hittin 2" groups before the spring change.
Just a thought all, thanks for all the input.
**shaking head, still trying to get over being called limp**
As for a firm grip, it is usually the last pistol I fire...I start with my .45 and then my .40 and then my 9mm...after years of shooting, I don't think that my grip is fatigued and again, I was hittin 2" groups before the spring change.
Just a thought all, thanks for all the input.
**shaking head, still trying to get over being called limp**
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