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  1. Nov 13, 2014 #1
    dascrow

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    Today Springfield Armory officially announced two new handguns. The XD® Mod.2™ Sub-Compact in 9mm and .40SW. We thought what better way to kick off the release of the all new XD Mod.2 than with a giveaway here on XDTalk! The winner will receive a Cross Cannon Shield hat and an awesome XD Multi-Purpose Range bag!

    First of all let's take a minute to let you about the new XD Mod.2:

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    Enter the GripZone™: a set of frame features working in unison to optimize interaction between the human hand and the pistol. Within the GripZone™, there are three distinct textures, each engineered for a specific purpose.

    The GripZone™ doesn’t stop with new grip textures. The re-contoured, slimmer frame and slide add up to a far more natural grip feel that has nearly twice the magazine capacity and is only 2 tenths of an inch thicker than single stack conceal carry models. The High-Hand™ grip relief and High-Hand™ beavertail enable the hand to be positioned as high as possible toward the barrel bore thereby greatly reducing the pistol’s felt recoil. The no-snag trigger guard minimizes possible unintended contact with a holster or clothing. All of these GripZone™ advantages are ergonomic features that you will truly feel. It all adds up to a pistol that naturally and comfortably stays positioned in your hand.

    Entry is simple. Just let us know in this thread your thoughts on the new XD Mod.2. Let us know if you plan on getting one, what you like/dislike about it. Please be specific, detailed and constructive about your response. We will leave this thread open for one week and pick a winner based on the most insightful response.

    We will announce the winner Friday, November 21st 2014.
     
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  2. Nov 13, 2014 #2
    ArmyGuy45

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    I think it looks good and kinda reminds me of a Walther but the real question is, does it blend?!?!??!
     
  3. Nov 13, 2014 #3
    taylorjr

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    "Grip Zone" sucks.

    Edit: Didn't see the whole "most insightful" part of this, so let me expand.

    In Springfield's defense, the XD is hard to beat. Great ergonomics for an extremely diverse user-base, a reputation of reliability borrowed from other product lines and built on the XD platform itself, and customer service that really backs each and every product they've sold.

    However, I believe the redesign is a huge letdown for many fans of the product line here on this site, especially when you consider the gimmicky "Grip Zone" lettering.

    In a day and age where people fret over large billboard logos on classicly styled 1911's, and in most cases pay more for simple rollmarks and engravings on production guns - save for actual works of art done by a master smith on high end firearms - the "Grip Zone" lettering is unnecessary and obnoxious. When a product description contains almost as many "TM" symbols as sentences, that worries me, but when a product begins wearing these monikers as badges of honor, it is appalling. That's not all though - there are a few more issues that should be addressed with the newly introduced subcompact.

    First of all, the best refinisher and arguably one of the most highly respected members here stated that something to the effect of "98% of internals will swap over from a normal XD". I understand Springfield's approach here - if it's not broken, why fix it? With the popularity of aftermarket trigger kits, however, there is a LOT to be desired from what I hear is the standard trigger in the XD product line that's also found a home in the new Mod.2. What a 98% part compatibility also tells me that Springfield spent more time playing with their CNC machines than figuring improvements to trigger / sear geometry or adding any sort of robust-ness to the internals of this pistol. These flaws are missed opportunities by SA.

    Secondly, for all the work they put into the Grip Zone (and the marketing hype), they easily could have made the panels (specifically the rear) end-user adjustable. I believe the same pin that holds the grip safety could be made to hold different size or textured backstraps - to me, again, this is a missed opportunity for Springfield.

    Thirdly, the entire pistol seems like a poor total execution of a decent design. I personally like the look of the updated texture, however, with a little closer inspection, it seems Springfield cut some corners. One of the most glaring mis-steps to me in the design process is the continued use of the original X-Tension sleeves on the extended mags. Not only does it look like Springfield outright forgot about the sleeves, it was a pretty poor design to begin with. The rounded blocks supposed to enhance positive purchase of the additional grip length leave a lot to be desired. Other corners that look to be cut - the lack of texturing (or the "Zone 3" texture) at the palms and in the frame thumb cuts really annoys me, as when I shoot, those are areas that I put a lot of emphasis on, especially with the palm of my support hand.

    If I boil down my remarks to this point, I guess I should be reviewing aesthetics rather than function. I believe this pistol is a step in a good direction aesthetically. The tapered side and updated styling of the slide looks great. The way the frame matches with the slide is very appealing. The recesses for thumbs and the undercut trigger guard are also both welcome changes. I am also very happy to see a FO front sight and an updated rear sight as well. I've always believed that with the addition of a Pearce pinky extension for the standard magazine, the XDsc was one of the best options for medium capacity concealed carry, and the Mod.2 doesn't change that... it's just unfortunate to me that they spent so much time updating the looks for something that will likely spend a lot of time hidden.

    I won't be purchasing a Mod.2 because I own the "first generation" of the XD9sc, and I believe Springfield missed a couple big opportunities here. Hopefully SA will listen to consumers and make better improvements to the lineup in the future.
     
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    Acheron2010

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    Well, I did not care for Springfield's email teaser campaign - did not feel valued as a customer. I thought I would be receiving some advance information, perhaps even an invitation to shoot it at participating ranges.

    As for the pistol itself, well, it is interesting. I like the sights. I am intrigued about the trimming for trigger finger and grip. "Grip Zone" molded into the grip is rather childish and does not make me want to purchase the firearm.
    I would like to know the detailed specifications, particularly weight and suggested retail. I look forward to handling it in my LGS.
    At this time, I am undecided about a purchase.
     
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    Jonnyuma

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    I like the "new" gun the same as i like the "old" gun. The stippling is a nice touch, but as stated before the billboards on the sides are as overwrought as the ad campaign. I'm guessing that the fine folks at Talon are working on a fix.
    It's not a complete miss, but not particularly revolutionary either....more of an evolution. At least most of the function bugs have been worked out over the previous models.
    I will give it serious consideration along with the XDs and M&P when I go shopping for a compact CC weapon again next spring.
     
  6. Nov 13, 2014 #6
    TomLC

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    I guess I'll have to buy a range bag. @taylorjr set the bar too high for me to beat.

    I like the ergos on the Mod.2, but can't get past the tacky Grip Zone lettering. Add that I just bought an XDm last month, that I am very pleased with, and it becomes unlikely that I would purchase a Mod.2 any time soon. Perhaps there will be some Mod.2.1 updates/upgrades to entice me when I am in the market for a new SA.
     
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    le_butters

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    Yeah taylorjr set the bar high.

    I would like to go to the range first and see if I like the new grip. I choice the xd over glock because it wasn't as bulky in my hand. I choice the xd over the M&P because I liked to at least feel some kind of grip. The M&P is very round and so it disappeared in my hand, while the xd felt firm.

    So if it "disappears" in my hand I won't buy it. As far as the grip zones go.....do it yourself stipple or professionally done, or grip tape.
    The sights I would change anyway for night sights. If that was standard it would be a lot more appealing.
    Overall Springfield should had focused more on the internal than the external and changed some of the grip. The gun looks very fancy now. I just want something that goes bang every time. Which my current xd does.

    sent from the german sheperd next to me
     
  8. Nov 13, 2014 #8
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    (May as well just give it to Taylor. Lol)

    I'd like to start by saying that this contest is taking place too soon. Asking people to tell you if they like the XD Mod.2 is only going to get you responses based on the firearm's aesthetics as the only person on this forum to personally handle one at this point is AJames. This should be taking place a month from now when more people have had an opportunity to fondle it and verify that the gun feels good in the hand.

    Having said that, I'll mimic the same sentiments as everyone else in stating that the "Grip Zone" label is too gaudy for my preference. The grip enhancements, and the upgrade in slide shape are welcome adjustments for me. I really like the implementation of the cutdown on the slide for increased traction when completing malfunction drills. I believe it will be a benefit to the XD Mod.2 line. Hopefully the grip aesthetics in hand will overcome the disgusting visual on the grip.

    I'm not truly a fan of fiber optic sights and would have liked to see tritium sights in their place as standard equipment, but again this is personal preference and I'm sure many will welcome the sight upgrade. If upgrading to night sights presents too much of a cost issue for mainstream production, standard 3-dot or bar-dot sights would have been better for my liking. Fiber optic sights work well for competition use, but don't lend themselves to self defense use very well in my opinion. Anyone using these pistols for serious defensive use will replace the sights with their preferred sight system anyway, unless the sights are functional from factory.

    In summary, I don't plan to buy one. That decision is made for me mostly because I have no need for another concealable defensive pistol (and if I did the Grip Zone label may persuade me to buy an old model XDsc if that was what I decided on). I think you'll do well with the Mod.2 if you remove that monstrosity of a banner on the grip, and maybe fire whoever put it on the gun in the first place.




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  9. Nov 13, 2014 #9
    RyuQD

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    I must agree with the other that the "Grip Zone" badging on the grip is gaudy and unnecessary but depending on price might not be a bad option for a EDC gun as i do not have a SC gun. So i'm on the fence about it.


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  10. Nov 13, 2014 #10
    UGADawgs

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    Since I just got an XDS ten weeks ago, I have no use for the XDsc. I may be interested in the 4" service option of the mod.2 when available but that grip zone billboard makes it look like a BB or Airsoft toy. I'll probably spend my cash on a shotgun or AR next instead of another pistol since my XDS is still so new.
     

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