XDs vs Glock 36 comparison and 1st XDs range trip

Discussion in 'SA-XD/XD(M) Range Reports' started by RioGrande481, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. RioGrande481

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    Well, here is the promised mini-range report & Glock 36 comparison.

    Range Report

    First off, here are the targets. I fired 50 trouble free rounds, all I had time for I am afraid during lunch.* They were 230 gr Remington range ammo, so nothing special. This was just kind of an initial function test and a bit of trigger familiarization.

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    These are the two best targets. Not too bad for the first time firing the gun. It took some time but after a lot of range trips I can shoot the G36 very well. I must say I did not shoot it this well after only 50 rounds though. I am probably just more used to this type of pistol now.

    Glock 36 Comparison

    You can see from this side comparison that the G36 is larger. It is certainly longer and taller.

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    This view from the rear shows the more slender nature of the XDs. Yes, My G36 has factory night sights.

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    This slide-top view shows that the slide seems a bit thinner.

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    Here are the magazines. The side view seems pretty close in size, especially if the G36 had a flush fitting magazine. However this view from the fronts of the magazines REALLY shows off the huge difference in magazines. I have always been critical of the thickness of the G36 magazine. I know Glock likes plastic, but look at how much thinner a metal magazine can be. Granted, the G36 magazine has several metal inserts, but it could have been thinner if made of metal. I guess this shows the progress of a few years of magazine design.

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    Initial Impressions

    So far I really like the XDs. I bought it because of the added safety of having a grip safety and the smaller size. It has functioned perfectly, but with only 50 rounds it is too early to tell. My G36 has been perfect and probably has nearly 1,000 rounds through it, so the standard has been set. I really do like the smaller size, but you do loose 1 round unless you opt for the optional larger magazines.

    The smaller dimensions make the XDs a lot easier to carry and conceal. It is not a tiny mouse gun though, so do not think you are getting something the size of a Ruger LCP. I think this is about as small as a .45 ACP pistol can get and still retain any durability and usability.

    Neither the XDs or G36 are range toys. Both are smallish and a bit challenging to shoot. Both seem capable of similar combat accuracy.

    So, bottom line - has the XDs replaced my G36 for CCW duty? Not yetÂ… but it looks very promising.

     
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    Nice report, thanks for taking the time and the nice pics.
     
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    Nice write up, good pics. No doubt that the G36 is bigger, but is amazing that it is 1oz. lighter. Can you get 3 fingers on the stock G36? Am sure the 7 round extended mag. facilitates that too on the XDS

    Would definitely say that that the XDS conceals much easier. Seems to be impressive to say the least. Can hardly wait for the 9mm release. The Mrs. needs a single stack that's ambi. It would fit like a glove.
     
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    I don't think the flock is lighter. Glocks list there pistols weight empty with no mag and Springfield list theirs empty with an empty mag
     
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    Thanks I have been waiting to see size comparisons of the 2 my edc for the past couple years has been a glock 36 it's a really good size carry gun the plus zero pearce grip extentions on the mag does wonders. I got a xdm 45 compact and was suprised that the mags were just barely thicker than the glock mags. I have not carried it much but it does not seem that much harder to carry than the glock. I am thinking I will eventually get a xds but I hear a good bit of problems with them and I definitely would wanna wait till the price goes down.
     
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    I have a postal scale, so I will weigh both guns and post the numbers.

    I can get 4 fingers on the G36. I only use standard magazines. I have a pierce grip/baseplate but did not find it helped me shoot better. Some complain about the mag/grip of the G36 pinching them, this has not bothered me once I developed my grip when firing the gun.

    The XDs is a 3 finger gun... I will seriously look at the 7 round mags. But for right now it is time to just go and shoot the thing!
     
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    inanebignate XDTalk 1K Member

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    I found the grip with the pearce to be a big improvement for both cosmetic and shooting purposes. Anyway how is the recoil between the 2?
     
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    Well, here are the weights using my postal scale:

    XDs: Pistol = 19.5 oz. Magagzine = 2.2 oz. Total = 21.7 oz. Fully loaded (5+1) = 25.5 oz

    Glock 36: Pistol = 20.4 oz. Magazine = 2.3 oz. Total = 22.7 oz. Fully Loaded (6+1) = 27.2 oz.

    This is with both gun and magazine unloaded. The loaded weight is with standard magazine capacity plus one in the chamber, so 6 rounds for the XDs and 7 rounds for the Glock 36. This is with Corbon DPX 185 grain ammo loaded.

    So, unloaded and without magazine the Glock 36 weighs .9 ounce more and fully loaded weighs 1.7 ounces more.
     
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    I want to get a 6 round mag for the XDs before I answer this. Stock I can get 4 fingers on the Glock 36 when held right. I can only get three fingers on the XDs no matter how I hold it.

    Right now I would say the recoil is more brisk with the XDs, but being able to hold it with a 4 finger grip might well cure this. I would bet given the slightly smaller weight of the XDs the two pistols would feel pretty close if both were gripped with 4 fingers.

    I like your question... Another excuse to hit the range is always welcome!
     
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    Thanks for the report and comparison. I just picked up a bitone XDs today, actually found a local shop where I live that had one in stock :). It's an early birthday present to myself, and that's the justification I told my girlfriend LOL. Unfortunately, I have to hit the books hard tonight or I'd be at the range right about now :(. The other one is a 4.5 9mm XDm and I was lucky enough to spend some time with a XDs at the range a few weeks back.
     

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    Another 50 rounds down range, slightly less accurate. Tried the different - smaller - grip insert. I shoot better wih the larger one.

    My XDs even likes cheap Tula ammo.

    Let's try some hollow points next!
     
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    Thanks for the info. Held an XDS yesterday for the first time - and liked it! May be my next purchase to augment my favorite - the G36. Cheers
     
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    Yesterday CTD in McKinney, Tx had Tulammo 45acp 230 ball ammo for $13.09 box of 50.

     
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    I have a glock 36 I like but thinking about getting an xds to replace it as my small carry gun. How was felt recoil between the two
     
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    :D
    For 2, 7 rounders and 1, 5 rounder, shipping came to 15 and change. 2.99 for handling.

    One thing that makes me mad, they had a S&W M&P Shield 9mm in stock 1 day. It was listed for $689.99 and it was sold in a flash. That is about 1.5x MSRP.
    They did this price gouging 4 years ago too, before the election.:evil:

     

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