XDm in .380?

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  1. Tall_Monty_MI

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    So I was going through some of the other threads and began to wonder, "What if Springfield made a pocket gun/mouse gun XDm in .380?"

    So I'll ask you guys:

    How many of you would consider buying one (assume that it has the same quality & reliability as current XD's/XDm's)?

    Would you prefer it to look like the other .380's on the market (e.g. S&W Bodyguard 380, Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P3AT, etc.), or more like a scaled down version of an XDm?

    If you would buy one, how would you use it... would it be strictly a backup gun, or an occasional primary CC gun, or what?

    What features would you like to see (e.g. integrated laser, backstraps, DAO or DA/SA, etc.)?

    How many rounds should the magazine hold, and should they be single stack or double?

    Do you think the current .380 pocket gun/mouse gun craze is going to continue for the foreseeable future or is it a passing "fad?"

    Thanks for your honest answers.

     
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    I would get one if it were just like the XDm in a scaled down version single stack and all. Even the subcompact is kinda big. I'm forever looking for a smaller gun because I wear slacks and tucked in shirt for work. I'm finding the XDm compact to be difficult to conceal.
     
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    S&W Bodyguard, Ruger, and others have that corner of the market. SA should stick with improving their current line of pistols and consider a XDmc in the 45.
     
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    I have a Bersa Thunder .380 which is a hoot to shoot. It is also very accurate so I would stick with it.
     
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    Unimportable due to (iirc) GCA68.

    This is the same reason that the Glock 25 and Glock 28 are for LE/M use only.
     
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    Correct you are. I looked it up and this is what I found regarding Gun Control Act of 68...

    Import Restrictions

    The 1968 Gun Control Act added a "sporting purpose" test which barred imports of military surplus rifles (a goal of many domestic gun makers) and a "points system" for imported handguns which barred from importation handguns based on penalizing features (short barrels, small caliber, short overall length or height, non-adjustable sights, etc.) believed to define the Saturday night special class of handgun.


    Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    I personally would not buy one. I do not trust the .380 to get the job done. I understand that many people think that having a .380 is better than nothing, and the pocket-mouse-gun is more concealable, but I would rather sacrifice a little comfort and carry the xdm compact in the .40. I think I have a much better chance at surviving an encounter with it.
     
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    I would get one. the main thing i would look for is that the slide locks back after the last round since most .380's dont.
     
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    I got the Ruger LCP and being a smaller frame size guy it conceals much better than does my XDm .40 compact. The .380 is 9.65mm. The hole will be bigger than a 9mm just with a little less power behind it. I don't think the bad guy standing 10' away would be able to tell the difference. Don't get me wrong, the 40 will knock the guy on his A$$ right now, the .380 will still get the job done.
     
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    9.65 mm? Where'd you see that?

    .380 is exactly the same diameter as 9mm Luger/Parabellum, .355".

    Perhaps you're thinking of 9x18?, AKA 9mm Makarov?
     
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    Due to the point system (75 needed) on imports, I don't see SA ever offering a .380.

    Characteristic Points
    Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
    Forged steel frame 15
    Forged HTS alloy frame 20
    Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
    .22 short and .25 auto 0
    .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
    9mm parabellum and over 10
    Locked breech mechanism 5
    Loaded chamber indicator 5
    Grip safety 3
    Magazine safety 5
    Firing pin block or lock 10
    External hammer 2
    Double action 10
    Drift adjustable target sight 5
    Click adjustable target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Target trigger 2


    Notice that the XD is Single action as defined by the ATF. That is 10 points missing. But the loaded chamber indicator (which glock also has) adds 5 points. Grip safety, 3 points, etc, etc.
     
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    Your .380 is NOT 9.65mm.

    It is 9mm--.355. In Europe, it is commonly called 9mm Corto or 9mm Kurz--"9mm Short".

    And 9mm Makarov is .365, iirc.

    And as for .40 knocking someone on his behind, you may want to take a look at the guy who was hit by a .40 22 times, 17 of them center mass, and kept right on going...you're not packing a phaser.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I thought that was a 9mm that hit the guy 22 times. I believe you can read the account (and see photos) in a book by Mas Ayoob (among other places).

    You are, however, right that no bullet is a magic guarantee. That's why you shoot until the threat is stopped. If that means 1 bullet, great. If it requires 22, then keep shooting.

    As far as the OP; I'd love to see a single stack 9mm XDm that's flat and small enough to slip in a pocket holster.
     
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    The incident I was referencing was a .40.

    Officer Down: The Peter Soulis Incident - Below 100 - LawOfficer.com

     

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