XDm in .380?

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  1. Tall_Monty_MI

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    So I was going through some of the other threads and began to wonder, "What if Springfield made a pocket gun/mouse gun XDm in .380?"

    So I'll ask you guys:

    How many of you would consider buying one (assume that it has the same quality & reliability as current XD's/XDm's)?

    Would you prefer it to look like the other .380's on the market (e.g. S&W Bodyguard 380, Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P3AT, etc.), or more like a scaled down version of an XDm?

    If you would buy one, how would you use it... would it be strictly a backup gun, or an occasional primary CC gun, or what?

    What features would you like to see (e.g. integrated laser, backstraps, DAO or DA/SA, etc.)?

    How many rounds should the magazine hold, and should they be single stack or double?

    Do you think the current .380 pocket gun/mouse gun craze is going to continue for the foreseeable future or is it a passing "fad?"

    Thanks for your honest answers.
     
  2. lvxdm

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    I would get one if it were just like the XDm in a scaled down version single stack and all. Even the subcompact is kinda big. I'm forever looking for a smaller gun because I wear slacks and tucked in shirt for work. I'm finding the XDm compact to be difficult to conceal.
     
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    S&W Bodyguard, Ruger, and others have that corner of the market. SA should stick with improving their current line of pistols and consider a XDmc in the 45.
     
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    I have a Bersa Thunder .380 which is a hoot to shoot. It is also very accurate so I would stick with it.
     
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    Unimportable due to (iirc) GCA68.

    This is the same reason that the Glock 25 and Glock 28 are for LE/M use only.
     
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    mixednuts XDTalk 100 Member

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    Correct you are. I looked it up and this is what I found regarding Gun Control Act of 68...

    Import Restrictions

    The 1968 Gun Control Act added a "sporting purpose" test which barred imports of military surplus rifles (a goal of many domestic gun makers) and a "points system" for imported handguns which barred from importation handguns based on penalizing features (short barrels, small caliber, short overall length or height, non-adjustable sights, etc.) believed to define the Saturday night special class of handgun.


    Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    I personally would not buy one. I do not trust the .380 to get the job done. I understand that many people think that having a .380 is better than nothing, and the pocket-mouse-gun is more concealable, but I would rather sacrifice a little comfort and carry the xdm compact in the .40. I think I have a much better chance at surviving an encounter with it.
     
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    I would get one. the main thing i would look for is that the slide locks back after the last round since most .380's dont.
     
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    I got the Ruger LCP and being a smaller frame size guy it conceals much better than does my XDm .40 compact. The .380 is 9.65mm. The hole will be bigger than a 9mm just with a little less power behind it. I don't think the bad guy standing 10' away would be able to tell the difference. Don't get me wrong, the 40 will knock the guy on his A$$ right now, the .380 will still get the job done.
     
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    9.65 mm? Where'd you see that?

    .380 is exactly the same diameter as 9mm Luger/Parabellum, .355".

    Perhaps you're thinking of 9x18?, AKA 9mm Makarov?
     
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    Due to the point system (75 needed) on imports, I don't see SA ever offering a .380.

    Characteristic Points
    Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
    Forged steel frame 15
    Forged HTS alloy frame 20
    Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
    .22 short and .25 auto 0
    .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
    9mm parabellum and over 10
    Locked breech mechanism 5
    Loaded chamber indicator 5
    Grip safety 3
    Magazine safety 5
    Firing pin block or lock 10
    External hammer 2
    Double action 10
    Drift adjustable target sight 5
    Click adjustable target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Target trigger 2


    Notice that the XD is Single action as defined by the ATF. That is 10 points missing. But the loaded chamber indicator (which glock also has) adds 5 points. Grip safety, 3 points, etc, etc.
     
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    Your .380 is NOT 9.65mm.

    It is 9mm--.355. In Europe, it is commonly called 9mm Corto or 9mm Kurz--"9mm Short".

    And 9mm Makarov is .365, iirc.

    And as for .40 knocking someone on his behind, you may want to take a look at the guy who was hit by a .40 22 times, 17 of them center mass, and kept right on going...you're not packing a phaser.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I thought that was a 9mm that hit the guy 22 times. I believe you can read the account (and see photos) in a book by Mas Ayoob (among other places).

    You are, however, right that no bullet is a magic guarantee. That's why you shoot until the threat is stopped. If that means 1 bullet, great. If it requires 22, then keep shooting.

    As far as the OP; I'd love to see a single stack 9mm XDm that's flat and small enough to slip in a pocket holster.
     
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    The incident I was referencing was a .40.

    Officer Down: The Peter Soulis Incident - Below 100 - LawOfficer.com
     
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    Ok, that puts a damper on it if they were to make it in Croatia like their current guns.

    HOWEVER, for the sake of argument, let's say SA was able to manufacture it here in the States (whether at their own facility, or possibly farming it out to another manufacturer, doesn't matter) so they don't have to worry about the handgun importation restrictions. Would you be willing to buy one then?
     
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    Not true! .380 and 9mm use the same diameter bullet.

    don
     
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    No.
     
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    I bought the XDm Compact because I wanted something more than a single stack 9mm or .380. If I want something like that there are plenty on the market.
     
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    One thing I do know is most cops quit using the 9mm a long time ago. In my town where I work next to the cops, they have all gone to .40's. You put enough PCP or "other" stuff in ones system and I am sure they can keep going for awhile.
     

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