xd 45 vs. HK 45

Discussion in 'XD-45ACP Discussion Room' started by heliguy, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. heliguy

    heliguy XDTalk 100 Member

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    Held an HK 45 in my hand for the first time. Fit finish and quality was definitely a stop above the xd. Anyone have experience on the range comparing the 2? At 2x the price of the XD was wondering if there was significant better experience shooting it.

     
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    fredj338 XDTalk 10K Member

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    Both are great pistols, both accurate & easy to shoot well. I prefer the USP for the fit/finish & ability to carry it cocked & locked, but I also love my XDTAC. The XD will also handle lead bullets while the USP shouldn't use them.
     
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    Dark Knight XDTalk 100 Member

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    Been a HK guy my whole life.... The HK USP 45 is a fine weapon.I have had a USP in my collection since they came out in the early 90's.I will buy the new HK45 also....I bought a XD 45 service model 2 months ago now .. Since then I have bought another one a Compact XD 45 and put my HK P7 M-13 in the safe .I now carry the XD compact in 45(all i need is a pinky extention hurry up Pearce!!)... I love the XD 45 Sevice but sold it since the aquisition of the compact....My HK USP 45 Tactical is a bit large for me to carry in the summer....HK is more accurate out of the box But cost $700 or so depends where you live...XD is a great deal for the money .
     
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    Dark Knight XDTalk 100 Member

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    HK USP 45 info
    corrosion-proof,fiber-reinforced frame
    converts to any of 10 firing modes
    Incorporated HK recoil system
    oversized trigger guard
    One piece machined slide
    Corrosion-resistant"hostile environment"Nitro-carburized finish
    Polygonal cold forged barrel
    Mounting groves not picitiny(Although they pioneered feature on handguns)
    Ambidextrous mag release
    Extended slide release
    Lock out saftey
    lifetime warranty
    12 rounds

    Springfield XD 45 Info
    polymor frame
    one firing mode
    oversized trigger guard
    One piece machined slide
    Diamond hard Melonite finish
    Fully hammer-forged barrel
    Picitiny rails
    Ambidextrous mag release
    small slide release(bigger than Glock though)
    Visual loaded chamber indicator
    Visual Striker Status indicator
    Grip safety
    XD Gear Sytem(cool baby)
    Lifetime warranty
    13 rounds
     
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    XDfan XDTalk 100 Member

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    I've had HK .45's in the full-size and compact model; when I went to get my XD .45 compact earlier in the week, the store had a pristine condition .45 USP compact for $799. If it's still there next Friday when I get paid again, it will be put on layaway. I love my XD .45, with its 10-13 rounds, vs. the 8+1 of the USPc, but I just love HK's!
     
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    You did not mention whether you were talking about the full size pistols or the compacts. I own both the HK Compact .45 with the LEM trigger mod and the XD Compact .45.

    The HK is a very high quality weapon. The LEM trigger was installed at the factory and I had a trigger job performed by Tommy Thacker (do a search on the HK forums for his particulars). The LEM trigger, if you're not familiar, has the same trigger pull all day and all night, like the XD. My particular trigger has a 6.5 pound trigger pull weight but it feels much lighter because Tommy did such a great job on it. It also has a very long take-up which cannot be shortened due to the geometry of the LEM system. LEM system is, for me, the way to go because I don't personally care for the double action/single action two separate trigger pulls in a combat situation; I want the same pull all day every day. YMMV. 8+1 capacity, very reliable. Magazine release is an ambi lever at the base of the trigger guard and takes some getting used to.

    My XD had a trigger job performed by Scott Springer and it is tremendous. Very short take-up, 4.5 pound pull (grease on glass smooth) and very short reset. He also undercut the trigger guard so the ten round mags with the shorter grip work really well for me. A somewhat emperical observation but it feels terrific in my hand. Had two reliability issues with the XD, both with aftermarket parts: Barsto barrel broke at the barrel foot, and the front sight on the Dawson Precision night sight broke off. (!!) Both fixed very quickly by Scott. Pistol is really accurate and otherwise reliable.

    I'm a 1911 nut but have been carrying my XD for a while now and can't get enough of it. Carry that over the HK because I dislike the long take-up and the mag release of the HK, but others don't mind those issues. If I was not carrying my XD I would probably go with one of my commander sized 1911s or the HK. You won't go wrong with either the XD or the HK. I HIGHLY recommend you check with Scott Springer for trigger work should you decide on the XD. Spectacular customer service!

    HTH

    Paul
     
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    I know of a HK USP .40 that gets 2000+ rounds a year of hard cast LRN. No problems, shoots more accurately than most of the shooters that handle it . . . even after 700-800 rounds. You've just got to be more anal retentive about cleaning it out well after you get done shooting it.

    As for the HK quality, I would absolutely love to have one to keep my XD company (in either 9 or 45, full size or compact) but being a college student, HK is kind of out of the question budget wise. I love shooting them, just can't own one yet. Truth be told, if I could have found one for what I paid for an XD, I wouldn't be here comparing the two.:)
     
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    Thanks for putting this list up. Very interesting...Other than the 10 optional firing modes...Do you think the HK is worth the extra $$$???
     
  9. Dark Knight

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    For me yes they are worth it.(YOU can find deals on them I bought a HK USP 45 for $500 locally with only 200 rounds down the pipe)..... BUT KNOW that I have been a HK guy my whole life.Shoot a HK P7 M-13 at 15 years old you get Spoiled..... I have had many Glock's when I couldnt affored a HK...A few months ago I started reading info on here about the XD and bought one sight unseen.I love the saftey fetures and the fact that the barrel is FULLY supported LIKE my HK's.......I have 3 now...I LOVE THE XD SERIES... I own both and will continue to do so......Ditto on the LEM trigger.....:)
     
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    I would love to see a picture of your high cut trigger guard. I've been toying with doing this too mine. My Commander has a high cut trigger guard and it really helps me get a higher hold on the gun. It would also help my pinky from getting pulled off the bottom of the grip while shooting +P ammo.
     
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    I have the XD-45 service and two H&Ks USP Compact .40sw&.45acp Both the XD and the H&Ks are well built and quality handguns both shoot great. now the XDs finish is not as good at keeping rust from forming some people say it's the same as the Teffner finish used on Glocks.:rolleyes: IMHO it's not. Not even close to Glocks quality finish. Both my H&Ks have a really quality finish they really are tough finishs.;)

    Mags cost around $24 for the XD and $35 for H&Ks

    The XDs new will cost around $300 to $400 less then a new H&K.;)
     
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    selectedmarksman XDTalk 100 Member

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    I had an HK USPc .45 and swore by it. After I bought my XD .45 Service I sold my HK. If I had the money I'd buy an XD .45 Tactical over an HK again.
     
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    I didn't think the HK 45 was out yet. Are you talking about the H&K USP-45? If that's the case, I have a USP-45 though I don't have an XD-45 yet (tough finding an OD Tactical around here) however, I also have a USP-40C and the wife has an XD-40 Service model. Yes, IMHO, the HK is worth the extra money. Extremely accurate, rugged, uber-reliable and you can configue it the way you want it. With the wife's XD, you can only have it one way. With my USP-40C, I started out with a Variant 1 (manual safety and decocking lever on the left side) but I decided I wanted the ambidextrious option so I was able to swap out those parts. Later when CDNN was selling LEM conversions for $50 I tried that instead and I REALLY liked that setup on my carry piece. My USP-45F has gone from a stock Variant 1 to being ambidextrious, match trigger, Tactical barrel (love that O-ring bushing they use!) MMC sights with a UTL as my "bump-in-the-night-gun" I keep next to the bed.
     
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    Finally after 13-15K rounds I had a failure to lock back on an empty Mag! This happened last weekend and surprised the heck out of me. My H&K USP45C is the most reliable weapon I have ever owned. The cause of this FTL is an aging magazine spring. Go ahead and acquire this weapon, get used to shooting it and enjoy. After all these rounds the finish still looks brand new too! You will never regret it if you get it!:D

     

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