Well I thought I try new ammo for my 4" Service 45ACP. I saw 50rds - 45 ACP Federal LE Tactical HST 230gr. HP. I spent about 36 bucks with shipping. I Have to say they are the worst ammo I have ever shot. Couple of weeks back I went to the range and thought I will shoot my new ammo. I load 5 rounds blazer brass, 3 rounds federal, and 5 rounds blazer brass to see if I notice any different. I started shooting without counting and sure enough it FTF after the first round of Federal. Try again and again FTF. I finish off the rest of the mag and I was so mad I left. I first thought it was my mag, so I took it apart and clean it. 2 weeks later (Last Monday) I went to the desert with a couple of friends to try out our collection of guns. I think we had a total of 20 different guns. I had a lot of fun and sun burn. Anyhow, I took this time 26 rounds of my federal and load 2 mags full (Different mags then the one I took to the range). I started shooting and sure enough 1st was good, 2nd FTF, 3 FTF,4 good, 5 good, 6 FTF and so on and on and on. Try second mag. Well you got the idea. Lucky I try these ammo out before I save it for home defense or carry. I would not and will not depend my life on these ammo. I got it from Gunbroker by the way. I am to lazy to post pictures. If anyone is thinking about this ammo. Please think again.