Winchester Ranger Bonded and PDX 1

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  1. ballistics

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    Is there a difference between the Winchester Ranger Bonded 230 gr. .45 ACP round and the Winchester PDX 1 Bonded 230 gr. .45 ACP round and if so, what is it?
     
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    Good to know
     
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    I had read somewhere that the PDX1 was an upgrade of the older Ranger Bonded round.
     
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    Either way, I wouldn't worry about it, a 230 gr. bonded JHP in .45 ACP will get it done! ;)
     
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    The original bonded looked like any regular cheap jhp. The PDX1 looks like a SXT.
     
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    I went to my range today and compared the appearance of the two rounds - PDX1 and Ranger Bonded in .45 ACP 230 gr. and they look identical. Same width and depth to hollow point, same design of hollow point, etc. So why the two different names if they're identical? Ranger Bonded and PDX1?
     
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    Ranger is a product line of ammo. Any load added to that line takes on the name.
     
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    I'm not clear on what you're saying about the name. I understand the Ranger Bonded taking on the Ranger name (like the Ranger T series) as it illustrates on the box. But then why doesn't the PDX1 have Ranger on the box?
     
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    If they put Ranger on the PDX box then it becomes restricted sale to Goverment only by Winchesters rules.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    By the way, if you were shooting a .45 ACP 230 gr. round out of a 4" barrel, for self defense, would you prefer the Winchester Ranger Bonded JHP or the Gold Dot Bonded JHP and why?
    Thanks for your valued opinion!
     
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    There is not a huge difference between them. I mostly carry the Ranger out of personal preference since it used to be made locally. Now I have a mixture of the two depending on what I had a lot of in the shop when I needed ammo.
     
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    Is the Ranger Bonded the same as the Ranger T round? I have shot both thru the same setup (denim, water jugs). The Ranger T expanded and settled in the 3rd jug. The PDX never expanded, went thru the whole setup (FMJ) and was never recovered. When we compared the 2 rounds, we noticed that the Ranger T hollow cavity was deeper than that of the PDX. We surmised that the more "shallow" cavity of the PDX allowed it to "fill up" with the denim, not expand and as as a FMJ Here is the Vid, if anyone is interested:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0BjFKChcuA&feature=player_detailpage#t=12s"]Winchester PDX 45acp test - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    The SXT family in order of birth.

    Black Talon
    Winchester SXT
    Ranger SXT
    Ranger T-Series
    Ranger T-Series Enhanced
    PDX1 (Bonded)
    Ranger Bonded
     
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    Just grabbed a box at Walmart for $25 , not a bad price ... Only 20rds and not 50 like the "ranger" box but still not bad for a local pickup
     
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    I got a mag of pdx1s loaded in my xdm and my p30...its a great round....its accurate...it got a snappy recoil in .40 but thats almost with any .40 round

    "ya know the favorite saying around here "play stupid games win stupid prizes"? once someone does something, they have a whole lot of personal responsibility they need to eat. sometimes its lead flavored with a thin copper shell."
     
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    someone else comented that PDX mushrooms rather than "talons" out. I carry ranger-T in my 9mm but want HST or Ranger -T for my 45. Only thing I can find locally is PDX. Which i understand has different expansion than the ranger line
     
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    Same.
     
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    Exact same ammo as the Ranger Bonded.
     

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