What does it mean to register a weapon?

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  1. NBollinger

    NBollinger XDTalk 500 Member

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    Have you ever seen or read about people charged with having unregistered weapons in their possession? What does this mean?

    When you buy a weapon a fill out the BATF background paperwork, you are merely being screened to see if you can buy the gun....it doesn't mean the sale went through.

    Are there state laws requiring you to 'register' your weapon with the sheriff, court-house, etc?

    What about buying a gun from another citizen...I know some states require a FFL transfer but many do not. So where does this 'registration' come into play?
     
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    maverick9614 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Some places, like Commmiefornia, require that all assault weapons be registerd with the Police. Other places, like Hawaii or Las Vegas, require all handguns be registered with the police. I have never lived in any of these states, but this is what I have heard from reading around and listening in on the boards.

    It's also been said that one has to register handguns in Washington State, but I believe this is a load of garbage as I live here and never once came across that in the Revised Code of Washington or at any of the gun shows here.

    I think it all depends on where you are and how liberal your state is. try www.packing.org for more details and to maybe correct me on my hearsay knowledge.
     
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    any4xx XDTalk 100 Member

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    Kansas doesn't have any registration laws, but sadly, some states do. You must register your gun locally and get permission from that government agency to exercise your right to own it.
     
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    manic mechanic XDTalk 1K Member

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    Michigan requires a "safety inspection" that in all reality is a registration, on the inspection card it even states they have not done an actual safety check, go figure.
     
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    Gun Registration is something the antis made up to "feel" safe while in reality it will do nothing to keep you or anyone else safe.

    If a criminal with a registered gun goes out and kills someone, there is noway the police would know it was the criminal who did it anyways.
     
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    i was talking with a local store owner, who just got his CHL the other day in the mail. he told me texas has a 2 week wait period on purchase (a cool down period he called it).

    said he confirmed it with the police who frequent his store.
    i gave him a curious look, and told him i dont think thats right at all. i went right in and purchased my XD and walked out with it the same day (same hour actually).

    the various (mis)information is rampant, go to your states website and they should have something to read about it.
    also www.packing.org iirc may have info on various states gun laws.
     
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    In Omaha, Nebraska...any weapon you bring into city limits has to be registered, for a $10 fee...with Omaha PD.

    Needless to say I don't go to Omaha much.
     
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    correction, any handgun you bring into omaha needs to be registered. However, nobody is sure whether this just means Omaha residents. Or if a person visiting while carrying has to register. I don't think they have to, but we'll find out eventually.
     
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    It means you live in Occupied America...not Free America like us in Texas.

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    In Maryland you fill out the BATF paperwork as well as Maryland state police paperwork, the state police also do an indept backround check on you as well as the fedrail check. The Guns serial number is on the paperwork and filled under you name. If its a new gun they also file away the factory fired shell casing--so thats one day they might cross refrence it in a crime--yea they toss them in a room never to be seen again. If you buy a gun from anyone in the state, or are given a gun say from your dad, it must be registared. There is a 7 day wait from when you do your paperwork--if you can find it they often run out of forms and tell you you just have to wait. Think they don't keep a database on gun owners think again, some of my paperwork got misplaced on one of my 1911's when I was buying it, and it had been like 15 days I was quite nice on the phone every time, and finally said look Maryland law says after 7 days even without the paperwork the gun can be transfered, I tried to be pacient and work this out, but I was not waiting years for it to be found, or paying again to do the paperwork only for you to find the orginal and then deny it becuase it was filed twice(yep had that happen too). The officer on the phone said well you already have a few 1911's why do you even need another. I said thanks Gun control making law abidding citizens into crimnals everyday, and kindly asked for his superviser. His supervizer and myself belong to the same gun club--needless to say he was very nice said he would have a word with the officer and called me back the next day to say he had found the paperwork.
     
  11. NBollinger

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    Wow, so now I'm wondering if some of my guns (the TX purchases) are registered...but the KS ones aren't. I guess I really need to pay attention to state laws when I move again.
     
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    Yap Michigan not only registers all the handguns, but also all the folding stock rifles that when folded measure less than 30 inches in length. They call it safety inspection, but you know.

    The police department would give you a green "safety inspection certification" card for every handgun and folder rifle that they "inspected." The State Police would also keep a copy. The safety certificate says it doesn't guarantee mechanical safety of the gun. It does however tell you it's criminal offense to "furnish, loan, give, or sell" the gun without the other party obtaining a license to purchase and undergoing the "inspection" process for the gun he/she takes possession.
     
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    Its means you have a weapon with distinct owner after leaving an FFL.

    A weapon that was built and has never had a serial number logged by any FFL, building AKs from receiver flats is a prime example of an 'unregistered' weapon since if "I" build it, follow all the 922r regs and never intend on selling it, it does not need a serial number as long as "My" state law doesn't require it to be registered.

    Now, in my book-the only thing registered are NFA weapons since I must get approval by the feds for ownership and the weapon must meet thier standards on SBRs, MGs, and AOWs.

    Also, some states require 'private sale' purchasers to have the weapon logged to the new owner per state/local LEO. Some states require a permit to purchase and also will require the weapons info......

    My C&Rs purchased with my 03 could be considered as unregistered because I log them in my own bound book when I buy them. My state/local police have no way to know that I am the rightful owner without looking at my books or those of the seller/company from whom I purchased/traded it from.

    An unregistered weapon would be 6 of my guns, 2 rifles and 4 pistols that were brought here from Germany in 1959, 1963, and 1965 with some of my family and given as hierlooms (i happen to have all of them!) and have never been anywhere near any FFL or LEO. There would be no record of these weapons existance.....

    Hope this confuses you more.....registration only happens when you deal with the feds, local 'registration' only shows ownership.....
     
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    Thanks. I think I got it now....lots of different laws and loopholes to be aware of.... and lots of ways that an honest, well intending person could get into a jam if not careful.
    I've also noticed some states have restrictive transport laws on the books too.
    I guess I'm kind of concerned because I move often and every state is different.
     
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    Yeah, there's some ambiguity for sure.

    Is it true that if you buy a handgun in Omaha city limits, they make you go register it before you can actually take it out of the store?
    Someone said that happened to them, and it just seems insane.
     

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