The real difference between 9mm,.357 Sig,40 S&W, .45 ACP

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  1. Rich_1833

    Rich_1833 XDTalk 100 Member

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    I was wanting to know how much difference there was between some of the different Cal. and I found this. I guess there all about the same. I still love my 40 S&W.


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    wow, i didnt realize they were that close together
     
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    That is a pretty nice comparision. Thanks for taking the time to post that for us all to look at.
     
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    It looks like they all penetrated the same, but the disruption of tissue is greater when you look at the 357 Sig, 40 and 45. I would feel good about using 9mm, though.
     
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    I have seen all these tests.. blah blah velocity blah blah enery blah blah

    personally I like the 45, it can take a rabbits head off at point point blank range. One time I was shooting rabbits with my Sig 9mm... it took 4 shots before the thing fell over.
     
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    Alaskapopo will be along soon to tell us that the 9mm is the ideal caliber for all applications:D OK Pat let me have it because I know it's coming!!!
     
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    That must be one of those 250lb rabbits.
     
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    remember there is a difference between temporary and perminite wound chanels. Gelitan tends to exagerate the temporary wound chanel
     
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    +1000.

    Uh oh, and I falling into another "my caliber is better than your caliber" tar pit??
     
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    very well could be....
     
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    Nice shooting! :mrgreen:
     
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    EricCartmann XDTalk 1K Member

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    it looked a lot smaller than that.
     
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    i concur...i heart the .40 Tactical...
     
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    Rich_1833 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Did the first three miss?????


    What I was showing is that they are all pretty much the same. I wouldn't want to be hit with any of them.
     
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    You would?? NOT ME!!;)
     
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    just like my LE buddy always says "40 is way better than a 9mm". I might agree to that to some extent. Any of these rounds can kill you.

    I keep telling him that we should have a shoot out......I'll go first. He has yet to agree to such a thing.
     
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    btw.....awesome comparison photo!
     
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    Any information on the correlation of ballistic gelatin and human tissue?

    I always wonder when I see these blobs of gelatin if the results would be different if you added a ribcage, thigh bone or scapula for the bullets to bounce around / through.
     
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    Well, Jcobb, I haven't shot human tissue, but I have shot many critters (from prairie dogs up to goats) with most common defensive calibers. From experience, I will say that despite what water and gelatin might indicate, there is a dramatic difference in "knockdown" among calibers. Indeed, once you add flesh and bone, some bullets fail miserably despite their stellar performance in ballistic gel. Since living tissue is far from homogeneous (like water and geletin), I find shooting coyotes and goats gives a more honest result of what a cartridge/bullet combo will do.

    Not to hurt any feelings, but the idea that all the usual self-defense rounds are "basically the same" has not been true in my experience at all.

    ;)
     
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    While you are certainly on the right road by shooting live game w/ your pistol rounds, anything smaller in weight than a man isn't going to give you defined results. A coyote is too small to absorb the round, hits/kills will be very spectacular. Move up to hogs & deer, things start looking relative. The 9mm is a poor deer stopper. I agree, I think there is some diff. between all the major rounds above 9mm. Bullet design has alot to do with it which is why I like the 45acp over all others. If the wizbang JHP fails to expand, it still puts a 45caliber hole through the target. The more/bigger holes in the target, the faster the target will go down (usually).
     

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