Substitute for Bullseye powder?

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  1. deckerjr

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    I'm new to reloading and have been very happy with Bullseye powder in my 40 and 45 reloads. It's obviously hard to find. Any body know which powders from other manufacturers are "identical" to Bullseye. I'd like to expand my possibilities.
     
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    None are identical....But you con load nearly the same with Alliant, Unique or Winchester 231 and WST and probably many others. Look in your reloading book for recomended loads.
     
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    True, there is nothing identical. Unique is actually quite a bit slower. The closest in burn rate would be TightGroup, but not a big fan becasue of the low volumn. RedDot is another good choice, abit faster though. WST & W231/HP38 are good choices, I am partial to WST, most accurate powder for clean burning loads in the 45acp I have tried. SOme guys really like Solo 1000, but I haven't tried it. Clays, but Clays reacts spookie as it getis near max, good loft though.

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    I have not tried Alliant American Select but a few of the guys that I shoot with swear by it.
     
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    +1 None are identical.
    That being said, my favorite replacement powder for Bullseye is Winchester Super Target. Just as accurate (to me anyway) and way cleaner burning.

    Jeff
     
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    I tried WST on FredJ's recommendation, and it's terrific.

    It has the added benefit that you can actually find it online. There are 8# kegs around.

    In fact, just talking about it makes me want to go reload some more .45s.
     
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    WST was going to be my suggestion. I was wondering what the general thought was on Power Pistol. Anyone like, dislike, or outright hate it? I have not used it myself, but was thinking of giving it a try.
     
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    A little slower than Unique, lots of muzzle flash, great for higher end 9mm, 357sig & 40s. It's not a good choice for midrange or light loads because of the muzzle flash.
     
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    I usually agree with Fred.

    WST for .45ACP? Not popular. For a reason.

    Like Fred Said, if you want a good sub for Bullseye, Tightgroup would probably be as close as you'll get. W231 is another very suitable sub, and one that is extremely common for this caliber and versatile if you load other handgun calibers.

    Bullseye and W231 are my two favorite .45ACP powders. I know Fred doesn't like fast powders, but if you're careful these are hard to beat for accuracy. ;)
     
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    Ok, thanks guys! I should have made it clear that I planned on using it in a 40 S&W with 180 grain jacketed Hornady bullets. W231 was another choice I had considered. Any thoughts you have on better choices are greatly appreciated.
     
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    I actually load plated 180 gr 40's with the Power pistol. works great for me, there is a bit more flash but I don't notice it shooting in the day time.
     
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    Well, what would that reason be?

    I bought a pound of WST, had terrific results with it. Tried it again, same thing. Bought more.

    For me it's accurate, fills the case, what am I missing that others steer clear of it. Does it cause cancer? Impotence? Excessively fast-growing fingernails?
     
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    WST is my powder of choice for 45acp also.
    VV n320 is what I feed my 40 but may need to look for an alternative because of the price tag.
     
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    Really, the 40 is no place for uberfast powders & jacketed bullets IMO> Go to Unique or WSF in the 40 w/ 180gr bullets. The most accurate ammo I have loaded to date for my very finicky 4006 is using WSF powder. Yes you use a little more, but cost is NOT the reason I choose a powder. The diff. between most unerfast powders & a med. powdr is about 3/10 of a penny per load. I don't cut corners on powder.
     
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    Now XMM, you can't just throw that one out & leave it hanging? Tell us why you don't like it? I've heard some say it's temp. sensitive, BS. I've chronographed WST from the high 30s to the high 90s & vel. change little. The accuracy is far better than I get w/ most powder & it doen't seem to spike like Clays & cleaner by far than BE. SO??:confused:
     

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