Springfield XDS 45ACP Review & Comparison Pics

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  1. awpk03s

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    I bought a brand new Springfield XDs 45ACP pistol yesterday ($549), and wanted to share some of my thoughts and experiences with it.

    Background:
    I have been rotating carry time between a Kahr CM9, MK9, and a Glock 30SF for the last several months. My main defensive pistols are Glocks (21Gen4 and 30SF). While the Kahrs are great to carry, I wanted as much commonality in action and trigger as possible. I considered a Glock 36, but find it just too big to ever carry in a pocket. The fact that the XDs almost mirrored the dimensions of the CM9 was very appealing to me.

    The XDs:

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    This pistol is small. Smallest 45 I have ever laid hands on. Size wise for me, it is just tall enough in height that my pinky finger doesn't fall off the frame. I love that the magazines are flush with the bottom of the pistol as well - this really helps with the ability to conceal it. The very high undercut trigger guard helps in keeping a full grip on such a small pistol.

    The overall build quality impression of the XDs is very good. The polymer frame is very nicely done, the grip texture is very grippy/aggressive, which aids in holding onto the gun during recoil. The polymer is perfectly finished - no little "stringers" of polymer coming off the rails like you will find in a Kahr gun sometimes.

    The slide had some machining marks inside, both my gun and the display model at the store, so I guess it's normal. It doesn't bother me, but in comparison to a Glock, I have never seen machining marks inside of a Glock slide, so do with that what you will.

    I like the melonite finish on the slide, it should hold up well to years and years of holster wear and abuse. The melonite on the barrel may not last forever due to the friction points, but that's okay with me. The barrel ramp itself was nicely cut and polished.

    The XDs comes with two interchangeable backstraps, one large (installed on the pistol) and one small. I tried them both and prefer the larger one.

    The XDs has a grip safety, which seems to be very responsive.
    It also has a loaded chamber indicator, which I hate, because it covers part of the front sight when it's raised to indicate a loaded chamber. I feel Springfield didn't really think this one through.

    The magazine release is ambidextrous, which is nice for me since I'm a lefty (I wish the slide release was this way also, but it's not). The mag release is a bit hard to push at first to drop a mag, but I think this will work in with use and maybe some lubrication.

    The trigger pull is good. To me it feels more like a Glock trigger than any XD trigger I've ever felt - which in my case is a good thing, since I like Glock triggers and use them a lot.

    The factory sights are nice, the rear is serrated and has two white dots, while the front is a red fiber optic. The picture is good and fast to acquire, but for a carry pistol I need to have night sights. I had a set of Meprolight Night Sights installed. The model for a standard XD fit perfectly in the dovetails and sight height(s). They are an improvement, but after shooting with them and the LCI issue, I already ordered a set of Trijicon HD night sights to put on, as I think I will like these even better, and the larger front sight with tritium and yellow ring will be easier to use in spite of the LCI.

    Range Report:
    After buying the pistol, I went down to my local indoor range and fired off some rounds. I was about an hour from home, so didn't take the time to strip and clean the pistol like I usually do, and I wanted to see how it would work in sub-optimal conditions (right out of the factory box with all the gunk included). I fired 50 rounds of WWB 230gr FMJ, and 20 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 185gr JHP - just what I happened to have in my truck at the time.

    Recoil:
    This little gun has a lot of it. It is significantly more than any other small 45 I have fired before (G36, 220C, G30, PM45, 3" 1911, etc.). You have to maintain a tight grip on the gun, and lock your arm in place for the best results. With that said, the recoil while substantial, is not objectionable to me. After 70 rounds I could feel it in the palm of my hand and in my forearm, but it's not that bad. It is what it is, and this is no target pistol anyway - and the recoil won't deter me from training with it.

    Accuracy:
    I shot at 10 yards, and will let the target speak for itself. I'm pleased with it.

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    Reliability:
    All rounds fed and ejected with no issues. Ejection was fine, all pretty consistently high and over my shoulder, none to the face, which is good. However, several times throughout the session, I experienced issues where the slide missed going into battery by probably 1/8" or less. A couple of times I caught it and nudged it forward and all was good. A couple of times though I did not notice it and pulled the trigger to a 'click'. I dropped the mag, re-cocked the trigger with manipulation of the slide pushing the round and slide all the way into battery, reinserted the magazine, and it fired and cycled fine.

    Some will poo-poo this from my description of the experience here alone.... "I wouldn't trust it, send it back, springfield sucks, etc." As for me, I am not worried about it. The gun is pretty tightly built, was not lubed or cleaned first, and it was the first time I had ever shot it, so I am not surprised by what I experienced, nor do I consider it a failure. I have had several Kahr guns in the past (P380s, PM9) that did this a lot in the first couple hundred rounds and then were fine. Some guns simply need broken in. Also - the XDs probably would run much better with a proper and liberal lubrication and cleaning out of the factory gunk.

    Field Strip & Clean:
    After getting home, I did a field strip and detailed cleaning of the pistol. I racked the gun 200 times and worked the slide/frame together with no springs 100 times as well. I lightly polished (elbow grease) the contact points where slide/frame interact to aid in full movement into battery, as well as the already polished barrel ramp to help the rounds move up into the chamber. I lubed it very liberally with FP10 on the barrel, and the slide rails and contact points. It works and moves very slick, and I think my next range session will be 100%.

    Carry impressions:
    This gun does fit nicely in a pocket carry role using a Desantis Nemesis holster. I tried in cargo shorts, and jeans, and it fits and is comfortable. It should really shine with IWB carry though. I ordered a couple of Garrett Silent Thunder IWB/OWB holsters for it already.

    All in all - a gun that is this small and light, this accurate, and packing 6 rounds of 45ACP, in a platform that's trigger and operation practically equals my HD pistols - is purely perfect for me.

    Comparisons:
    Here are some pictures comparing it size-wise to a Kahr CM9 and a Glock 30SF (using 9 round magazine).

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    Enjoy!

     
  2. Devin.Morris.007

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    Great review! Im planning on picking one up in the next probably 2 weeks. The comparisons are nice too as I also considered a G30 or G36. I'm anxious to hear your holster review on it as well. One of the biggest draws to this gun for me was having the ability to pocket carry. I'll probably still carry IWB the way I do now, but it will be nice to have the option to pocket carry. Especially in the summer months when I dress light.
     
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    Nice write up
     
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    Thanks for the thorough and well thought out review.
     
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    Great review !

    What kind of sights do you have ?

    PS : the g36 is a tiny gun , a smidge bigger then our XDs'es ...

    The Internet and even looking at it in the case made me think it was a g19 size , until I held one a week ago ---

    The 36 is definetly close to the XDs in terms of size , I compared it side by side to a 19 and the 36 is SIGNFICIANYLY smaller then the 19.

    I hope to get one soon !
     
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    Great review, I still prefer my kahr pm in my pocket, but I've put the xds in there and it fits. It's just not as comfy as the kahr is to me. It's amazing how close to the size of a glock 26/7 it is and much thinner!
     
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    I got rid of my glock 36 because of the horrible extention the magazine has... if it sat flush like the 9rd magazine in a glock 30 I would of kept it.

    a nice comparison of them

    http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/genera...son-photos-glock-36-ruger-lc9-s-w-shield.html

    Concealed Carry Forum - Springfield XDs vs. Glock 36
     
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    Excellent review and thanks for the comparison photos with the glock short frame I was thinking that would be my next gun but after seeing just how much bigger it is than the XD-S I will probably rule it out. I have a Kahr PM45 and the XD-S so probably don't really have a use for another small 45.
    Maybe the XDM 5.25 in 9mm, we will see.
    I definitely will be getting the Triicon HD sights on my XD-S and XDM 3.8 C 9mm though.
    Thanks for the review!
     
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    Wife has a CM9 and it's too small for me. My index finger punches the mag release button after I fire the first round dumping the mag.:shock: Works OK for her though.
     
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    +1 Great in depth review!!!!

    Glad to see someone with some seat time on other small pocket 45's put in their input.
     
  11. awpk03s

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    Thanks guys. I owned a Glock 36 years ago, and it was a great pistol, wished I had never sold it. I considered another G36, but I really wanted pocket carry ability, and the G36 does NOT fit that bill. I owned a PM45 in the past, and it was a nightmare. The gun pelted brass directly at my face with every single shot for at least 300 rounds. It made two trips back to Kahr, and they could not fix it - they told me my problem was I was left handed. I also have spent some time with a 3" 1911 (S&W Pro Series) and while it was great, the beavertail and hammer really dug into me in IWB and I opted to carry striker fired guns again.

    So - all in all, I think I can safely ascertain that I am committed to shooting the crap out of this pistol and making it work for a fantastic CCW piece - and besides, if there is an issue, Springfield's CS is top notch.

    In my mind, this pistol is seriously a game changer when compared to its nearest competitors, the G36 which is just too large, and the PM45 which has reliability issues all over the place and the magazine protrudes from the grip by an obnoxious amount for the same 5 rounds.
     
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    I really liked your well written review, good job. Ive made my mind up that i will get an XDs but going to get different (also a springfield) one first. Glad you liked it.
     
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    Very nice review.
     
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    Nice job on the review!
     
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    The next gun I will get will be the XDs. I have the tactical and it's great but pretty big. They are very well made guns.


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