Sig P228 advice

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  1. thejoe

    thejoe XDTalk 1K Member

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    Hey all -

    Need input. I just came across a Sig P228 at my LGS. It's about 95% and comes with 3 nice leather holsters, 3 mags, and CTC laser grips. They're asking $800. I am tempted as I know the weapon by itself is worth between $550 and $600. I have been wanting to get a sig to replace my XD40 and I think this is the one. Thoughts?

    My other option is to spend the same amount for a brand new P229. What would you do?

    joe
     
  2. cobravenom452

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    As far as I know the 228 and 229 are the basically the same thing. The only difference is that the 229 also comes in .40 with the option of a rail. If you like 9mm then I would say go for it, plus if it doesn't already have night sights you can send it to SIG and for around $100 you can have them put night sights+refinish the slide not a bad deal IMO. So unless you need a .40 or rail I'd say go for the 228, but it's your decision.

    P.S. I own a 229 .40+rail and love it! But it fits my needs
     
  3. 1lowlife

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    No, they are not the same thing.
    The P228 was designed for 9mm.
    The P229 was a P228 adapted to take the stress of 40cal and 357sig.

    Yes I did cut and paste this, but it explains better than I can:

    The P229, which was developed especially for the US market and is assembled in the USA using both German and US-made parts, is technically similar to the P228 except for the heavier slide, made by machining a bar of steel as opposed to the P228 slide, which is made by stamping and forming from sheet steel.
    The heavier slide on the P229 is necessary because of the more powerful ammunition used in this pistol.

    P229 pistols also can be adapted to any of three calibers (9mm, .357 and .40) by switching the barrel and return spring; P228 pistols are 9mm only and cannot be converted to other calibers.


    I'd go for it Joe, if the holsters offered are good and usable.
    But I'd offer $700 or $750 for it, all they can do is say no.
    I'm guessing you have already tried a DA/SA Sig pistol.
    It is quite a different setup from the XD40.
    I prefer a DAK Sig myself.
    But if the DA/SA Sig is what you are looking for then go for it.
    Also look into Mec-Gar mags, stock Sig is 13 rds, Mec-Gars are 15 rd.
    Chances are Mec-Gar made your stock mags depending on the age of the gun.
    I sold the stock mags and run Mec-gars thru my Sigs.;)

    BTW, I'd never buy any Sig with a rail, it ruins the classic lines of true Sig Sauer pistol.
    Rails, we don't need no stinkin' rails.

    9MM P229 SAS..

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    Let us know what you end up with..;)
     
  4. cobravenom452

    cobravenom452 XDTalk 500 Member

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    What I meant was that if he was wanting a 9mm anyways just go for the 228, because there was no point in getting the 229. Their both doublestack DA/SA with decock. Yes the 229 can also convert to .357 and .40 but if your wanting a 9mm with no rail then go for it.
     
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    Wrong again, they all don't have decockers..
    Not all P228s and P229s are DA/SA.
    Many older police trade-in P228s are DOA.
    Many P229s are DAK.
    The OP didn't specify what he was looking at.

    Also a 9mm P229 cannot convert to a 40cal or 357sig.
    A 40cal can convert to a 357sig with a barrel change and visa versa using the same mags.
    As well a 40cal/357sig can convert to a 9mm with a conversion barrel and 9mm mags.
    Not trying to bust your balls, just want to provide the correct information..;)

    Also if Joe wants a NEW P229 without a rail on it, he can get a NEW P229 SAS as pictured above.
     
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    thejoe XDTalk 1K Member

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    It's the DA/SA model. I'm leaning toward getting it, but I will need to do a little more research to find out where it was manufactured.
     
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    1lowlife XDTalk 15K Member Founding Member

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    Joe is you haven't joined it already Sigforum.com has a lot of info that can help you.
    You will need an ISP based email address to join, no hotmail, gmail, yahoo, etc...

    Don't read too much into the 'only the old Sigs are the only good ones'.
    I've owned several Sig pistols, both old and new.
    I've never had an issue with either of them..

    If there is anything I can help you with don't hesitate to shoot me a PM.
    I'm no Sig expert, but I do know a bit about them, they were all I owned and carried for several years.

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    Even owned a P250 for about a month..:oops:

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    Depends...

    Is this P228 one of the earlier, W. German made ones with the folded sheet metal slide, or one of the newer solid slide guns?

    The solid slide version of this pistol feel strangely top-heavy to me, but I am used to the older German made P-series SIGs (I have three of them). To someone that does not know the difference...maybe not.

    That seems sort of high for a used SIG and close to what you'd pay for a new P229 9mm.

    If you REALLY want one of the better P228s, I'd skip that one and buy one of the Swiss police trade in pistols from Robertson Trading Post on GunsAmerica for 489 bucks. These are like my 1991 beauty - a proper old school P228 9mm that has great balance and will shoot like the devil.

    These:
    http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.aspx?T=P228 Robertson

    The older P228s were very nice shooters and totally worth owning....I love my 1991 made P228 and would never get rid of it.

    - brickboy240
     
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    It's a 1990 W. German model. The proof marks are all there, has a KA date stamp on it. At this point I'm just hoping it hangs around long enough for me to gather the cash to make the buy. I will go inspect the internals and as long as it all looks in order I think it'll make a good carry gun for me. We'll see.

    Thanks for the input!

    joe
     
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    Go get it...you'll love the P228.

    Mine is a 1991 W. German made version. Bought as a police trade in, it has some minor holster wear but the internals were pristine. Shoots great and is an all around reliable and pleasant 9mm.

    - brickboy240
     
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    My wife bought it for me today.... Yes, she is the best. I didn't realize this, but it has a short trigger on it (super crisp), and I forgot to mention it has night sites as well.

    At any rate, I am thrilled with it. Looking forward to throwing some rounds down range if I can get away this weekend. I'll get picks up later.

    joe
     
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    What a great wife you have...

    Mrs. thejoe is awesome.

    Welcome to the wonderful world of Sig ownership..........:cool:
     
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    thejoe XDTalk 1K Member

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    ~150 rds downrange today; only failures were due to under powered "remanufactured" rounds and some limp wristing. I pushed left a lot when I was using the sites (they may be off), but I had good follow-up shots on target. The gun points right where I look... It may have been luck, but I fired more than 30 rounds and all were within an inch or so of where my eyes were looking. I love this weapon! I am so thrilled... Really couldn't be better.

    joe
     
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    I'm glad it worked out for you Joe.

    Sig is a fine firearm..;)
     
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    Nice little shooter...isn't it?

    My P228 shoots about the same and has been 100% reliable. Gotta love the W. German made SIGs....they're awesome guns.

    Start saving now, because you know you will wind up wanting a P225, P226 or maybe a P220 later on. That is just how it goes...one W. German SIG is never enough! LOL

    - brickboy240
     

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