shipping an ar-15 upper

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  1. rudy64

    rudy64 XDTalk 100 Member

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    is it legal to ship a complete upper usps? I've seen the signs that say no guns on the property. if it is, do I have to declare the upper? thanks.
     
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    Yes it is legal....the upper is NOT a firearm.
     
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    there are no regulations on the books right now relating to shipping an upper or any other gun part (with the exception to the lower/receiver) that part with the serial number is what matters
     
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    Question to piggy back, just currious, since the lower is the "gun" if it is shipped, does it have to ship just like a firearm (express overnight via Fedex) or does it just have to go to the FFL with no other restrictions??

    Don't mean to hijack!
     
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    Spawnz XDTalk 1K Member Founding Member

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    I could be wrong but I believe only a handgun has to go overnight.

    And no matter what it is (handgun or rifle/shotgun) it still has to go to a valid FFL holder.

    As far as an AR lower, I would think it would ship as a rifle lower although the lowers can also be used as a pistol.

    As far as an upper, parts is parts.
     
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    Hwkeye XDTalk 1K Member Founding Member

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    makes sense, thats for sure...
     
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    nalioth XDTalk 2K Member

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    This is incorrect, sort of.

    Shipping a gun - XDTalk
     
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    jonny4523 XDTalk 2K Member Founding Member

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    Kind of the point there being that if you are sending to someone in the same state, it doesn't have to go through an FFL (or at least not in the great state of Indiana). Any time I send or receive inter-state, go through an FFL. And as said previously, parts are parts, send uppers to your house.
     
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    Recently, I had to ship my upper. I went to FedEx, UPS, and the USPS... and scared the **** out of people there and got into a small argument at each place. They each said they could not ship a gun or a part of a gun. I told them otherwise each time and explained to them how this part was not registered and was not an actual gun.

    I finally took it to the main US Post Office, and they guy at the counter called the other places, including their small office down the street, "fuking idiots." He gave me a box, bubble wrap and let me wrap it on his counter.
     
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    Here in KY the UPS store says "No concealed firearms pursuant to KRS 527.020" which means no illegally concealed weapons. KRS 527.020 states that no weapons will be concealed without a license to do so. It says weapons and not just handguns or SBRs because our CCDW license applies to nunchukus, death stars, handguns, knives with blades longer than a pocket knife (arbitrary), brass knuckles, and a couple other things I can't recall.

    Besides, make a friend with a fedex/kinkos store. I have one and can overnight any of my handguns for about $16 :)
     
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    They have gun registration in Kansas?

    I thought that was just a California thing. . . .
     
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    Michigan has it...
     
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    rudy64 XDTalk 100 Member

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    That is what I was really worried about, uneducated people. Does anyone know if any of the carriers x-ray packages? I don't want the uneducated to hassle me with my shipment.
     
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    nalioth XDTalk 2K Member

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    So in Michigan, you have to account for every handgun and legislated long gun purchase and disposition and are barred from direct sales to other Michigan residents?

    Please note, that I am not talking about the Federal form 4473. In the free states, that is not a 'registration', not matter how many people insist that it is.

    Just box the thing up, and take it to the post office. It's not a firearm, no matter what anyone else thinks. Mail it to where it's going and have a nice day.

    Too much thought has been wasted on this in the first place.
     
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    You do not need to register long guns in MI. Handguns must be registered, however. In order to purchase you must have either a purchase permit (go to local PD, pass BG check, get paperwork) or have a valid concealed pistol license. Once the purchase has been made, two copies of the paperwork (which includes gun description and serial) must be sent back to the local PD, where they will send one copy off tot he state police.

    EVERY handgun (with the exception of some antiques) MUST be registered in the state of MI. Even for private sales. If you're buying a handgun, no matter the situation, you MUST go through the process described above.

    There's no special laws about long guns. No additional paperwork or anything.
     

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