Discussion in 'XDTalk Chatter Box' started by 3rdgeargrndrr, Jan 14, 2012.
This could be a good/educational thread as long as who feel they are perfect don't screw it up. We all should be able to admit we've done dumb stuff.
You might want to rename the thread to "share your negligent discharge stories" Accidental discharges are things like "I set my gun on the shelf of my safe and the internal safety failed causing my gun to fire and put a hole in my safe and wall." Having a finger in the triggerguard is not accidental.
I've had one negligent discharge with a gun, and it scared me so bad that I'm a bit paranoid with guns now (in a healthy way). I killed our TV shortly after I bought my HS2000 (that tells you how long ago it was). I had loaded the gun the night before, and decided to practice field stripping the gun the next day. I locked the slide back but forgot to take the magazine out. After flipping the takedown lever, I dropped the slide (thus chambering another round), took aim at the television in the corner of the house, and pulled the trigger. Needless to say the ringing in my ears was a surprise, and it took me a second to figure out why Danny DeVito disappeared from my TV screen (how did that hole get there?). I felt very sick after that.
It was the night of my high school prom over 35 yrs ago........
Needless to say my rented tux had to be dry cleaned.
Ummm, No Sir, everybody has not had one.
I have not had one but reading others stories had made me paranoid about it.
No. Not everyone. There is nothing funny about an AD/ND. People die from them. People are maimed from them. People are scarred for life (not just physically either).
ETA: I sincerely hope you are really not that flippant about AD/NDs. If you are that flippant about it, I sincerely hope you are not a CWP/CHP/CHL holder that carries on a regular basis. Safety should be paramount in everything a person does when doing anything with any kind of weapon.
Look, IM not trying to be harsh, but marginalizing negligent discharges is a bad idea,
it's NOT ok
It's NOT funny, ever
It is ALWAYS an error,
It is ALWAYS a serious shooter mistake to be taken seriously and learned from
God forbid, if ANY shooter ever has two of them, he/she should never shoot again as far as Im concerned
An AD is extremely rare, and almost always involves an equipment failure. They are almost all Negligent Discharges. Negligence with firearms is criminal, not a joke.
Bought a "brand new" Springfield micro compact 1911, in box, from a gun store we auctioned. Carried it for 2 months after running it through my 100 rounds carry ammo with no issues. Sat it on my night stand as I did every night. Went to grab my water, water hit it (I know it never should have been that close) and fell off. I went to lean over the bed real fast to try to grab it (I can beat gravity you know.....) and it hit the ground on the hammer and shot straight up nearly missing my face with hollow points. About crapped myself, and when I finally had the nerves to handle it again was to take it apart and send it to SA. Got on the phone and told them what happened. They called me later on and told me that all the internals were tampered with and safeties removed and altered, etc. I understand that I should have checked them all myself, but when you buy something thinking its brand new, you expect this has all been done by the manufacturer. Come to discover that the son of the shop owner was a tinkerer, and this was one of his projects. End of story. Took me mons before I could carry it comfortably.
AD/ND are never funny. Had I been a second quicker someone else would be telling you this story.
SAFETY FIRST. My finger was nowhere near the trigger, and I still almost killed myself. I take half the responsibility for knocking it over, and the guy who should take the other half will never know it happened.
Check your weapons EVERY time. Every time. Every every every every time. No excuses. It can be your life, or someone else's.
I've personally never had a AD/ND, and God forbid I ever have one.
But I was at the gun room where the lanes are immediately viewable from the cashier stand. As I was checking out we (cashier/range officer, some other patrons, etc) hears a more than normal loud BANG! The type of bangs were it sounded like it was fired too close to the glass/Plexiglas. We all turn and look.... we see a guy staring back as if he just made a doodie in his pants :what:. The RO walked over to make sure nobody was injured and had a quick inquiry with what happened.
RO came back with the story that the guy was dry firing to release the firing pin (slide action type pistol) :sly:, not realizing it was still loaded. The guy was putting his pistol away to pack up. The only damage was a divot in the linoleum tiles, exposing the cement foundation.
The guy kept saying "oh my gosh I'm so sorry! I'm so sorry it was an accident! I'm sorry!"
He wasn't reprimanded so far as I know. Didn't seem like the range was going to charge him for the damage either.
My learning from that incident... don't EVER but never dry fire by assumption - must do the physical and visual twice or more.
sorry for being long winded. Just wanted to put you in the scene.
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I would have sued him into the next millenium. I think I would have gotten a new gun.
as someone thats been shot by one, not funny.
That said I've had an ND and an AD, AD, pulled trigger on first deer, nothing on safe, flipped safety (still pointed at deerish) and it fired, trigger bar got stuck on safety, apparently the "smith" messed up and no one had ever pulled the trigger with a live round in there with it on safe so in 20 years no one ever figured it out... and some people make fun of me for function testing. I missed my first deer.
I shot a 180 lb hog at 30 ish feet with a 22 it bolted, I took two steps chasing it and fell hard, hit rocks, pulled trigger on impact, again rifle pointed in direction of pig, only endangerment was due to possible ricochets (stuff came off the ground in front of me) I was 11 or so at the time. Funny part was first round hit its heart, it made it 12 feet no reason to chase it at all I did hit it 7 times before I started following it, tasted great too.
Wife was setting her XDM9 down on the table at the range and it AD. Scared the hell out of both of us. The best we could figure out, she had her thumb on the safety and the booger finger on the bang stick. Business end pointed down range, so no foul, but what a wake up call!
Never had an AD/ND, but was in a lane next to young lady that put a round in the floor while loading a Glock she rented. Needless to say she didn't stick around long after that.
"Freedom is the right of all sentient beings." Optimus Prime
i am more then happy to tell my story...
it was when i first became a gun person. i was working with the county as a correction officer... i did not carry a gun with work yet.
we just had a major hurricane... no power i was working 12 to 18 hour shifts. fighting inmates, the heat, and just stupid crap... i went home to take a cold shower and get what little sleep i could..
the only gun i had at the time was my XD40 officers.. i left that with my wife. my buddy gave me one of his glocks... i was laying in the living room and sleeping heard a loud bang and i woke up and grabbed the glock and i grabbed it wrong i put the finger where it should not of been. gun went off...
because of this i am a better person for it.. i am able to teach and learn from that one mistake...
sorry for the long one but you needed a little story behind it
My mistakes have always been with airsoft, or BB guns. When I was a kid, dunno how old I was exactly, but I had an ND with my BB gun. Target practicing in the basement, thought the safety was on, and pulled the trigger with it pointed at the ceiling. The BB bounced off and hit me right dead on top of the head! That actually hurt, and drew blood, thought the BB went in for a little while! That one taught me trigger discipline, and not to rely on a safety! You'd figure I'd learn, but then I did this: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-chatter-box/189844-nd-shot-myself-foot.html . That one was just completely stupid.
Never had an AD either, even with malfunctioning guns. Had a hangfire on a .22 that exploded on the ground after I ejected it a couple times. One not too long ago, scared the crap out of me, thought I shot myself in the foot!
I haven't told anyone about my ND because Im such a big advocate of gun safety Honestly, it's quite embarassing to admit you are human too sometimes.
I was cleaning my XD and rem 1100 tac 4. Already finished cleaning the 1100 and had it in the cloth case sitting on the bed. I finished the XD and began loading it for the night stand. Inserted mag, released slide, and BAM. The shock of the slide release bumped my finger in to the trigger gaurd and pulled the trigger. I should have been holding my finger more firmly against the outside of the frame.
"WTF... oh ****. WTF!!! How could I be so f*cking retarded?!?!?! Ok, where did it go. Oh ****, what if it went through the wall to the neighbors house? Oooooh crap. How did that happen? Wow my ears hurt."
Sooo.. I searched for HOURS looking for the round. I couldnt find any holes in walls, bed sheets, clothes hamper, windows. I gave up and picked up the cased 1100 to put away. The gun fell out of the case haha. The bullet went right through the zipper's pull tab and in to the magazine tube of the shotgun.
I remember thinking "Oh my GOOOD WHY did I have to shoot the most expensive thing in the room?!?!?!?!" After a couple hours of tedious light hammering on the barrel to reshape the choke section, and $30 dollars for a new tube and spring it's all good to go again. Luckily.
Sorry, I have never had a ND/AD and will do my absolute best to ensure that I NEVER have one.
I have been shooting rifles, since I was 8 years old and handguns since I was 10. I also first shot a Winchester pump shotgun when I was 10 years old. Our father made sure that we all knew and practiced proper gun safety even before we were considered mature enough to shoot a gun.
Accidental discharges are extremely rare and are generally cause by mechanical failures that are the result of someone's negligence.
Firearm safety is extremely serious business. Any safety violation that leads to a negligent discharge is a potential tragedy and is never funny.
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