I did a search but couldn't find anything on this. I was at the LGS today and ran across the Remington HD Ultimate Home Defense 9mm 124gr BJHP setting on the shelf right beside the same load of Golden Sabers. I laid one round of each on the counter and we could not tell the difference. Does anyone know what is up? The HD/UHD come 25/box for about $6.00 less than the 20/box Golden Sabers. Not hard to decide if they are the same. I went ahead and bought 2 boxes. I hope I didn't waste my money.