Reloading Rainier Bullets

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  1. Jun 15, 2011 #1
    rtparso

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    I am reloading some 9mm with 115 gr Rainier plated bullets.
    The Hodgdon data recommends 3.0 to 3.4 grains for 115 gr LRN.
    The data for 115 SPR GDHP is 3.7 to 3.9.
    How high would you load?

     
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    zWarlord

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    With Ranier (and all plated) use lead bullet load data.
    Start low, work up, as always.

    Just for reference i use 5.6gr of power pistol with Ranier plated HP's
     
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    I usually use the same load data as lead. I find with the plated bullets (Rainiers/Berry's) accuracy suffers and they start to shed copper if you try and push them like a jacketed projectile. What powder are you using? Be safe. Have fun.
     
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    3.9 grains of accurte #2 per the Lee manual.

    I've loaded this and its lite for a glock 27 with a 9mm barrel, and a 40s&w spring.

    Lee says 4.4 grains of accurte #2 for lead. havent tried this one because its 0.1 grains over the max for rainier bullets.
     
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    rtparso

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    OOPS I forgot to say Clays

    Were did you find data for Rainier?
     
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    Use lead data for plated bullets.
     
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    fredj338

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    Plated load between a all lead & a jacketed bullet. So using starting jacketed data or lead bullet data works best. The Lee book sucks because the data either is incomplete or vague. There is no reason to use a lower charge wt for plated than lead. Notice they call for a max OAL, but what is the loaded OAL?
    A word of caution on using CLays. It gets weird as you get to the max data & can spike badly in small voulm/high pressure rounds like the 9mm & 40. If you use Clays, stay away from the top end loads, best used in the bunnyfart catagory of loads, starting or just above starting data.
     
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    rpsimpkins

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    Modern Reloading, Second Edition, by Richard Lee. It doesn't say "Rainier" but it has a small section in the 9mm part for "115 Grain Copper Plated". And the only powder manufacurers listed are Vihtavuori and accurate.
     
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    fredj338

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    That data is suspect IMO> Look at the data right above it for 115gr lead bullets. Nope, the Lee manual sucks in so many ways, that is just one example. Too vague, doesn't have many useful powders, rarely gives the exact bullet used or correct OAL. Note the OAL says max?? How is that helpeful? The only max is the one that doesn't fit your gun. I want to know the OAL used to make the data or at least minimum OAL, far more useful.:confused:
     
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    Fred you and I both know that MAX OAL for the 9mm is 1.169.
     

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