Press-Check Failure to Return to Battery Fix

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  1. Nov 26, 2013 #1
    ChillyB

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    Guys,

    Like a lot of XDs mine did not return to battery after a press-check. I found a youtube video where a guy found what he thinks is the problem: that shallow groove on opposite side of the slide from the extractor. Not exactly sure of the function but I suspect it has something to do with repeatedly locating the spent shell in front of the ejector. This groove is also the reason why it's difficult to draw the slide rearward for the last 1/4" or so (the rim is captured in that shallow groove, the ejector pops it out).

    I scratched at the groove with a finishing nail and the surface finish is VERY coarse, probably because it's so difficult to reach with the cutter when it was milled. Probably using a long skinny tool to reach in from the front of the slide, which makes for a fairly flexible tool (bad for achieving a quality surface finish) Anyhow, this groove can benefit from being smoothed out but it's a bugger to reach with a dremel and felt wheel. I've been scraping it with that same finishing nail and it has smoothed up considerably. I can now press-check with muzzle down and it will return to battery. With muzzle up the weight of the slide is just enough to prevent the spring from overcoming the friction but I'm confident I'll get it smooth enough. A finishing nail is soft steel and that groove is alloy steel treated to high 50's Rockwell with salt bath nitriding. Hardly a fair fight but it's making a difference slowly and surely.

    For the final step I'll have to try to rig up a long tool holder for a Dremel felt wheel to polish up the groove with some lapping compound or polishing compound. I think I can probably epoxy a Dremel felt wheel mandrel to a length of brake tubing so I can feed it in from the front of the slide. If I can't polish it no big deal, pretty confident that rubbing the groove with a nail will resolve the issue.

    Alternately one can polish it with the rim of several hundred dollars worth of 45 ACP.

    ChillyB

     
  2. Nov 26, 2013 #2
    justashooter2a

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    I've asked this before in other threads but never got an answer, so perhaps you can tell me why, since the XDs has a loaded chamber indicator, you would press-check? I'm not trying to be a smart-alec, I am really curious.
     
  3. Nov 26, 2013 #3
    Go99

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    I was told you can't trust the indicator, some get stuck in the up position, so should always check before going out the door.

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    DanielChamberlain

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    There was a movie many years ago starring Sean Connery where he played a Chicago policeman recruited into the FBI to get the moonshiners and eventually, Al Capone. In one scene, a really good young actor (Andy Garcia) was checking to see if his Thompson was loaded. Connery said: "Did you load it?" Garcia said: "Yes." Connery then said: "Then leave it alone."

    There are two schools of thought in play here. In the first school, the thought is man is not infallible and will make errors (ostensibly when it comes to remembering if he loaded his gun).

    The other school, one I belong to, is man is infallible and will make errors...but can overcome them by developing a routine. If one does the exact same thing every time, the exact same thing will result. If one has no routine, errors will occur.

    The mid 80s "press check" involved placing one's thumb from the non-shooting hand into the trigger guard of a loaded, cocked 1911 style pistol and pressing back by placing the forefinger of the non-shooting hand very near the muzzle of the loaded and cocked 1911 style pistol. Looked tactical has hell, and looked pretty idiotic when one considered what might go wrong with sticking a thumb into the trigger guard of a loaded and cocked and "unlocked" 1911 style pistol.

    Since the advent of loaded chamber indicators, some have eschewed them as not being reliable indicators that the weapon is indeed loaded, which strikes me as funny, since it's one component of the firearm they don't trust in a firearm that's loaded with components they do trust.

    A press check is another way of playing with a loaded gun that one can justify - or try to - when the gun should simply be properly loaded, holstered and left alone until it comes time to deploy it, or put it to bed at the end of the day.

    Best.

    Dan
     
  5. Nov 26, 2013 #5
    Onig

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    The issue, to me, is not the press check per se. I mean, even if it doesn't return to battery, you can easily push it in. However, the bigger issue is an inadvertent out of battery condition, caused by a push on the slide while holstering or some other unforeseen action, and not knowing about it.
    This is something that SA should address, and FIX!, on all their guns.
     
  6. Nov 26, 2013 #6
    cYm

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    the holstering part shouldn't be an issue. Once you pull the gun out of the holster it will go back into battery.
     
  7. Nov 26, 2013 #7
    Onig

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    Shouldn't is the word ;)
     
  8. Nov 26, 2013 #8
    cYm

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    haha. in that case just make sure you buy a holster that fits tight and you'll be fine :p
     
  9. Nov 26, 2013 #9
    apathia

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    Load it and leave it. The bullet trolls didnt come out and remove the chambered round when you werent looking. Your way more likely to leave your gun out of battery with constant insecure press checks then you are to have somehow lost the round you chambered.
     
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