"Peace of Mind" from a DA gun?

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  1. Jun 16, 2017 #191
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  2. Jun 19, 2017 #192
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    I stated that they use rifles in combat. Quote me where I apparently stated that they never trained with handguns. Good luck.

    You can't press the trigger again on a striker fired handgun if the "misfire" was due to mud or water in the striker channel without racking the slide. I thought that was my point from the start. LOL! You can at least press the trigger again on a hammer fired handgun without having to rack the slide. So you get second strike options, of which if it still does not fire you can perform typical remediation (tap, rack, bang).
     
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  3. Jun 19, 2017 #193
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    Do try and keep up.

    Their immediate action drill with Sig P226's--(which, the last time I checked, are DA/SA with a hammer)--WHY is their immediate action still ALWAYS T/R/B, not another trigger press?

    You still haven't answered this.
     
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  4. Jun 19, 2017 #194
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    You still haven't quoted me where I apparently stated that they never trained with handguns.

    Not sure why you are asking the question on why SEALs train a certain way. I am not a SEAL. Nor are you. The US Army teaches to use the forward assist after reloading a M16A2 rifle each time. Does anyone else really teach that? No.
     
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    I have seen those before. Not sure of your point in posting this. I never stated that every striker fired handgun has an issue with water or mud. You can watch Military Arms Channel and see plenty of guns that choke in water or mud. Typically the hammer fired guns fare better. In fact, the hammer fired Arex Zero 1 managed to get submerged in water, sand, dirt and mud and still shoot without an issue.
     
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    You still haven't answered the question.

    Why can't you? It's quite simple.
     
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  7. Jun 19, 2017 #197
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    Oh I did. Here, I will paste the answer again, and boldface it for easier comprehension as well:

    Not sure why you are asking the question on why SEALs train a certain way. I am not a SEAL. Nor are you. The US Army teaches to use the forward assist after reloading a M16A2 rifle each time. Does anyone else really teach that? No.

    Now can you answer my question regarding this imaginary quote you made up?
     
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    You first, because you haven't answered the question:

    If the correct action following a click on a DA/SA pistol is another trigger press, why don't top-tier units such as SEALs (or other SF, as a member who was with such units posted earlier) using hammer-fired pistols use that as an immediate action drill? Why do they train to go immediately to TRB?

    Answer that first; I've only been asking it for about a week, while you try and move goalposts claiming it has nothing to do with carry, or divert the subject to rifles.
     
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    It's Monday already?
     
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    Again, I wouldn't know because I am not a SEAL. What makes you think that's how they train when you aren't a SEAL either?

    I gave you an example of how the US Army trains with rifles and that they train to use the forward assist with every reload, yet that's not a common rifle technique used outside of the US Army.

    And again, I am not saying TRB doesn't work. Just saying why hammer fired pistols are making more demand these days. It definitely is NOT trigger safety because if your holster is that bad or you lack trigger discipline when holstering then you should NOT be carrying a firearm.

    I mean here, an article from Guns.com stating the same f*cking thing that I have been saying this entire thread: SIG Introduces New Second-Strike-Capable P290 RS - Guns.com
     
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