Ok another "which 1911 should I get" thread

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  1. speeddemon40

    speeddemon40 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Hey guys. I posted earlier this week about graduating from college and planning to buy myself a 1911 as a present. My folks want me to decide what I want from them in the thousand dollar range. I want something that I will always have and remember when and for what I got it.
    I've been looking at the kimber UC II and CPD II and of course also at some compact SA 1911s

    What I'm looking for:
    -Compact/Easy for CC
    -45 ACP
    -I'm still on the fence, but I love the bi tones
    -Night sights (or is it better to buy without and have some installed?)
    -Under or around a grand


    Please give me some suggestions.

    Thanks guys!
     
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    Chapie+ XDTalk 2K Member

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    Here are a couple of suggestions:

    Springfield Armory "Lightweight Champion Operator PX9115 LP"
    Here is the link: http://springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=32

    OR

    Springfield Armory "Lightweight Operator PX9116 LP"
    Here is the link: http://springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=33

    The second one has the 5" bbl which is quite concealable with the right IWB holster. The first one has a 4" bbl. Neither are "pocket guns" but then again if you're getting a 1911 in .45 ACP you're not looking for a pocket gun you're looking for something that will reliably negate the threat – that’s cop talk for stop someone from killing you or killing someone else (again).


    Here are a couple of reviews: FEATURE ARTICLE>>>Springfield's Lightweight Operator
    Springfield Lightweight Operator
    Springfield's Lightweight Operator

    Here are some prices:
    1911A1 Lightweight Operator "9116LP" - Springfield Armory by Big Sky Guns LLC

    1911Pistols.com: Springfield Armory 1911 Pistols
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    DRH XDTalk 100 Member Founding Member

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    My Kimber has performed flawlessly. Never had a FTF with any range or carry ammo. Just my personal experience.
     
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    slugger6 XDTalk 85K Member Founding Member

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    My most recent purchase was a Taurus PT1911 stainless. I'm very happy with it so far.
     
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    bigun XDTalk 4K Member

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    Dont get anything with a barrel shorter than 4" but if you can find one with the 4" or 4.25" barrel and a Officers model grip frame you have a winner that wont suffer reliability problems like so manny of the 3" barreled guns do. But will conceal easily and be easy to shoot. Oh and avoid anything made by Para Ordinance.
     
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    speeddemon40 XDTalk 100 Member

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    I've been reading alot on 1911 forums and it seems like the majority of people having problems with their 3 & 3.5" barrels have been resolved over a good break in period, while few actually had problems that the manufacturer had to resolve

    What would you recommend. I've been trying to decide between the 3.5" and 4" along with which model. There are soo many combinations or configurations and so damn many acronyms that my brain is starting to hurt. haha

    Thanks
     
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    Chapie+ XDTalk 2K Member

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    What do you think of the SA Lightweight Operator models I suggested above?

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    speeddemon40 XDTalk 100 Member

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    For some reason they wouldn't load at my work computer.

    I really like the 4" model, but at 31 oz plus 7 round mag will that be heavy for summer carry?
     
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    speeddemon40 XDTalk 100 Member

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    I'm kind of tempted by the ultra compacts, but cant decide
     
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    The Kimber CDPII is going to be about the same weight as an XD45 compact without ammo. It will come with night sights.

    You might also consider this:
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    Dan Wesson Commander Classic Bobtail is a 4.25” series 70 style, commander sized 1911 featuring a stainless steel frame and forged stainless steel slide. Like all Dan Wesson 1911s, Commander models incorporate top quality parts from the best names in the industry.

    · Round top slide with fixed 3 dot tritium night sights
    · Forged, one piece match grade barrel and bushing.
    · Ed Brown Bobtail mainspring housing
    · 20 LPI checkered front strap
    · Hand polished flat surfaces with contrasting bead blasted rounds
    · Beveled magwell
    · All sharp edges dehorned by hand
    · Lowered and flared ejection port
    · Ed Brown memory groove grip safety
    · Ed Brown slide stop
    · Tactical, extended thumb safety
    · Commander style match hammer
    · Match grade sear
    · Aluminum trigger with stainless bow
    · Extended serrated magazine catch
    · Wolff springs used exclusively
    · Diamond checkered coco-bolo grips
    · Tuned, machined, internal extractor
    · Test fired for reliability
    · 34 ounces unloaded

    DW Commander Cls Bobtail


    You should be able to find the for under 1,000. You can also get this in 10mm if you like.


    I'd say you don't need the rail if it's going to be a carry gun, you're not going to carry it with a light or laser and it's harder to find holsters for the 1911s with rails. They're sweet guns with rails, but it depends on what you want.

    You might also consider a standard government model for the nostalgia of it and use other money for a carry gun. You can carry a 1911, but it will be a large, heavier gun than just about everything else to carry.


    This is my Dan Wesson Pointman Seven, standard 5" government model, series 70
    [​IMG]
     
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    I have to disagree with you on this one. Well I don't know if disagree is the right word. It pisses me off that gun makers can charge people a lot of money for a gun and then tell us that we have to "break" the guns in, i.e. spend a lot of time and money on bullets to get the gun to work well. It used to be that one would spend a lot on a 1911 and then send it off to a gunsmith to make it reliable. For what these guns cost they ought to be broken in already. I have had to send my brand new unfired Kahr CW 45 in for repair and will have to do so again because it still isn't working right.

    (That experience is the reason for the anger you are hearing in this email - it nothing you have said/done).

    I refuse to "break it in". The gun ought to work for what I paid for it right out of the box. Yet it comes with a warning that it cannot be considered reliable until at least 200 rounds have gone through it. The gun didn't come with a coupon for 200 rounds worth of ammo from Wal-Mart. I have to pay more money to see if it will work!

    If you want a reliable and lightweight carry gun for the summer then get a S&W model 642 in .38 special. It will go bang each and every time and it only weighs 15 ounces and it hides well in a pocket holster. Better yet get the new 642 powerport model with improved sights and a big compensator to reduce the recoil. Product: Model 642 PowerPort - Pro Series Revolver

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    Kimber,Colt XSE, anyof the custom makers. Most have a pistolwith the Officers Frame and Commander slide. I am serious I have big hands and have never had a problem with these smaller framed 1911's. They conceal beautifully and have the longer sight radius.
     
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    Sorry to hear about that bad luck man. I understand your anger and frustration. I completely agree with the fact that you shouldn't have to spent a grand (or more) then put 500 rounds through it to break it in. I guess I just thought that was the nature of 1911s.

    Now you bring up an excellent point.... which is a very very bad one for my wallet. hahaha
    Since I was thinking about getting another gun soon (and had been saving), I could get the 1911 I want and still buy myself something that I can carry daily with no worries of what Im wearing... I'd still like to be able to comfortably carry whatever 1911 I get, but give me more flexability in my choice.
     
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    I will never carry or recommend a ported gun for self defense. Too much risk that if you have to shoot from the hip in a contact distance situation, you're going to have hot gases coming up at your neck and face. I'm quite content with a standard barrel.
     
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    Have to admit I never thought of it that way.

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