NY Mother looses 2 childeren during sandy

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  1. shootinnc1988

    shootinnc1988 XDTalk 500 Member

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    i seen this on cnn an thought id share it with evryone. a NY mother trying to get out during huracane sandy, gets stranded in her suv and has to bail out with her 2 and 4 year old boy's. during that time she went to a house close by that was ocupied by a man inside. she went to the door and pleeded to let her and the children in, but the man didnt. she went to a window and tried to break it to get in, she couldnt break it and eventuly was overtaken by flood water and lost grip of her children. the next day her cildren was found dead a 1/4 mile away. you need to watch the clip in the link to get a real feel of what happend.
    my thoughts and prayers go out to the mother and familie.also, i hope the man that owned the house gets his for what he caused.

    Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
     
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    That is truly heart breaking and difficult for me to read without thinking of my own two kids.
     
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    The man sounded pretty convincing when he said with his story about a man, not a woman. Something isn't right here. Vey sad story, either way.
     
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    Good Lord man! How sad a story, and sorry to read that! That homeowner should be hanged at sunrise.
     
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    He didn't cause it, its not his fault...yet he should be ashamed for NOT offering help to those in need...but he is under NO duty to offer help [as some say here about defending the life of another with a CHL](a real man...a sheepdog, a protector would have helped)

    Horrible tragedy...
     
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    ok... so they put this guys house on TV and show this guy on the news convicting him of being this child killer A hole that refused help and will have the whole world outraged at him talking about lynching him at sunrise FOR WHAT?

    ok think about this rationally. it's SHTF. you don't know who is out side. you don't know if they are legit needing help (where they should NOT have been in the first place) or trying to get him to come out for nefarious reasons.

    he says a man was trying to get him to come out and when he wouldn't come out was trying to break in.

    Thinking with MY mind... if I am in a situation and I am unsure I need to protect myself and my family first.




    if I am armed and alone in a house I may take a chance depending on my gut feeling.

    if I am unarmed or have others I need to think about... sorry pal take a hike. I wish you luck.

    I think any of us in that situation would have a firearm in our hands or at least on our hip. Being in NJ he was probably unarmed and just being cautious.

    it sucks the kids died but its not this mans fault.
     
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    I couldn't imagine the pain of losing one, or both of my two sons
     
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    and people will blame the guy in the house with an emotional irrational rage.

    the mother took a gamble on being out after they said not to and she lost.
     
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    i agree with this being unarmed i wouldn't open the door for anyone over 120 lbs or without clear line of suight to make sure no one else is going to roll through.

    I've had a 14 year old attempt to get me to open the door with 5 ogres hiding out of sight on my portch before..
     
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    i agree. its awful that the kids died but it wasnt the homeowners fault. by keeping the door shut he was just protecting himself.
     
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    Agree with your thoughts.
    I would place blame on the mother for this terrible tragedy before the home owner.
    I am not sure if I would place my life on the line and risk placing my family at risk of losing their provider for a stranger’s poor judgment.
    Certainly am not going to judge the man for his decision.
     
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    i think the man that owns the house is just trying to covver his rear by lying and saying there was a man outside his door. id hate to have that on my mind that i turned away a mother with 2 small children, and it costed 2 lives to be lost. he needs to burn for it.
     
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    Put yourself in his shoes. To some this is a "SHTF" situation.

    Your door gonna be wide open in a "SHTF" situation????
     
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    have you ever had a girl try to get you to open your door to be a victim of a home invasion? do you own guns? if your answers are #1 no and #2 yes you can't even begin to speculate.

    You don't live ina place without guns.

    You can't fathom a home invasion begun by a woman getting you to pop the lock.
     
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    If protecting your kids is your priority (as it should be) she should have evacuated LONG before flood waters were rushing in. Truth hurts, but if you're going to point fingers its got to be at the mother.
     
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    Im with Bonehead on this one. Whos to say the woman with the 2 boys wasn't plotting to take over the house and had another partner hiding outside somewhere.

    The media is going to cause so much trouble for this guy and all he did was protect HIS family.

    I am saddened by her loss but this is NOT the mans fault.
     
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    We don't know what happened. At the very least it is the mother's fault for driving in a hurricane with her kids. I knew it was coming and I live in Utah. I am pretty sure that she was aware that a hurricane was coming. She may be lying about the whole thing and took it as an opportunity to kill her children. There are a lot of sick people out there.

    Having said that, the guy in the video was very defensive.
     
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    i would probably be defensive as well if i was being blamed (directly or indirectly) for a mother's neglegance which resulted in the death of her two children. to me, it doesnt matter if he heard a woman or a man wanting to get into his house. he isnt obligated to let anyone into his house, regardless of their sex.
     
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    If the story flies true to the womans account, and according to police looks to be the case, Karma will come to haunt that homeowner.
     
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    I don't see where there is bad karma for him.

    in SHTF people need to make judgement calls. she made hers and he made his.

    she risked herself and her family he didn't risk his.

    he says he stayed up all night guarding that door because he was scared because someone tried to break in.


    we all keep weapons < ALL of us here keep weapons because we will not allow ourselves to be a statistic. we have weapons so we wont have to be scared when someone tries to get in our homes.

    he/she was at that moment, his ZOMBIE.
     

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