NEW" 4" barrel Springfield XDS....

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  1. Nakanokalronin

    Nakanokalronin XDTalk 500 Member

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    I didn't see a post here about this, but I also didn't search. 4" XDS coming soon...sorry, that's all I know.

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    There's a few guys who beat you to it.
     
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    not real sure why they are doing this, I already have the 4" in a double stack if i wanted to carry a larger gun i would have just carried it and have more rounds.
     
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    You didn't look very hard :p

    They're calling it the XDS 4.0
     
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    I really don't see the point in it. The benefit of the xds is it's small size
     
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    Actually, I think the XDS 4.0 makes some sense. The 4 inch barrel will provide better ballistics than the current 3.3 inch barrel, and adding a bit of barrel length does not really increase problems in carrying concealed. At the same time, it retains the slim profile (under 1 inch) of the current single stack XDS which does contribute to ease of carry, especially inside the waistband (IWB), in direct contrast to the more awkward double stack XD and XDM compacts (I have both to compare) which are currently the only available 4 inch barrel Springfields. The XDS 4.0 is likely to be a very popular seller in my opinion.
     
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    I agree, used to carry a double stack and it was nice but thickness and height cause printing more than barrel length imho. Love my 3.3 but I would really want to drop the 4.0 in my holster and pull a shirt down over it before passing judgement on it. I would love the almost 3/4" of extra barrel for accuracy and fps reasons.

    Pretty sure, it's going to go on my gotta have list. :)
     
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    This is true but at the same time...NOT REALLY. .7 inch of barrel will only add 75 FPS at most in speed and hardly noticeable for accuracy. Accuracy comes from the shooter. My buddy has an M&P 45 compact and I have the fullsize 5inch barrel. We tried a few different loads and on average see a 100ish(or less) fps change and that is a FULL 1inch barrel difference. As far as accuracy, yes the farther the rear sites are from the front, the "easier" it is to shoot more accurately BUT .7inches hardly makes a difference. You really notice a difference going from sub compact to FULL size OR even more so going from a snub nose to a 7 inch revolver. I think in this case, the extra .7inches is more negative compared to what is gained. IWB, pocket, and appendix carry will all suffer maybe not greatly but they will (especially when sitting and the weight goes up) BUT velocity and accuracy will hardly improve. These pistols are for ultimate concealment while still packing a punch. Of course this pistol WILL sell and the "pissing" contests will start about how much faster they shoot but in reality it is moot and is hurting why these pistols were designed in the first place, to be very concealable while packing more of a punch than a 380. The bad guy will not know the difference between the 3.3 or 4.0...just like a deer will not know the difference between a .270 or a 3006.
     
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    I think the .7" will have a noticeable improvement on sight radius. The FPS gains will not be noticed so much, but they will be there. As for concealing, it will still conceal well and for the people who do not think it will fit them, the 3.3 will still be an option.

    Different people have different needs and tastes, so more options are never a bad thing and people will have pissing contests about who has the biggest big toe, it's the nature of us.
     
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    Didn't look too hard, did ya? That pic looks familiar.
     
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    You are right that more options are always a plus haha. As for sight picture, I guess it can make a difference for some people but .7 inches really is not that much. It is more so in the type of trigger/gun that makes a difference for people. Some shoot single double action far better than striker fired and so on. I can shoot an M&P 45compact just as well as a fullsize...unless we are talking about FAST rapidfire shooting where the larger fullsize will give less recoil. HICKOK45 on Youtube demonstrates small does not mean inaccurate. He shoots targets with LCPs and such at 50+ yards...some targets are 80 yards. It is all in trigger control and type of gun being shot. YES I am going extreme here talking about the LCP...of course for MOST of us a fullsize will be more accurate than the LCP but I was just giving an example and think the .7inches will not be that noticeable. Maybe the slide length and weight might aid in quick followup shots.
     
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    You are right that more options are always a plus haha. As for sight picture, I guess it can make a difference for some people but .7 inches really is not that much. It is more so in the type of trigger/gun that makes a difference for people. Some shoot single double action far better than striker fired and so on. I can shoot an M&P 45compact just as well as a fullsize...unless we are talking about FAST rapidfire shooting where the larger fullsize will give less recoil. HICKOK45 on Youtube demonstrates small does not mean inaccurate. He shoots targets with LCPs and such at 50+ yards...some targets are 80 yards. It is all in trigger control and type of gun being shot. YES I am going extreme here talking about the LCP...of course for MOST of us a fullsize will be more accurate than the LCP but I was just giving an example and think the .7inches will not be that noticeable. Maybe the slide length and weight might aid in quick followup shots.
     
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    I love Hickok45, his seal of approval is a large reason why I bought the XDS. You're right, the man makes some great shots with small pistols.
     
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    Isn't that the gun the world has asked Glock to build for ten years or more now?

    I believe it will do well, and I believe I will buy one when I see it.
     
  15. Nakanokalronin

    Nakanokalronin XDTalk 500 Member

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    Sorry for the dupe thread. I found this pic from another site.
     
  16. Bigeclipse

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    I am not saying it wont do well...I think it will, I just dont understand why what is supposed to be a super conceal almost pocket pistal is now adding length to the barrel. I can see where a single stack 9mm with a 4inch barrel in a state like NY where you cant carry more than 10 rounds may make sense, but to me if I am going to carry a 4inch barrel it might as well be a glock or M&P that holds way more than 7+1 rounds(again unless you are in NY). The XDs in 9mm never really made sense to me anyways since it is taking a 45size pistol adding weight and making it a 9mm. Should have scaled it down in size. There are other 9mm out there that are just as good and cheaper. Now the original point of the XDs was to be a tiny 45...which it does very well in it's current state, but adding .7inches to barrel just doesnt do much in speed or accuracy, especially when talking about 9mm since 9mm isnt affected by barrel length as much as 45ACP is. Just my two cents
     
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    Same reason they make several different barrel lengths in 1911's. Some what more, some want less. Some think it makes a difference, some don't. But the all sell. That's the only thing that matters.
     
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    Your statement that "Accuracy comes from the shooter" is very true, but it is miss applied to this situation. With any tool, there is only so much accuracy to gain. If a shooters accuracy remains the same and you give him the same platform with a longer sight radius, he will perform better.
    I shot this gun at a "factory event" at my LGS. Great gun! The extra length takes from concealment but only in the length. IMHO, length is the least important factor with concealment. The extra length gets you better sighting, more velocity, less felt recoil and muzzle flip.
    If you are a fan of the XDs line I think you will like this gun. It is still a great weapon for CCW and then you can put in the extended mag at the range and it shoots like a full sized weapon.
    I bought it on the spot.
     
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    His videos are the best. I wouldn't mind seeing a 4.0 in 45acp but at the same time the 3.3 really fits the bill as far as conceal carry goes.
     

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