Les Baer Premier II vs SIG 226 X5 Tactical

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  1. Dean407

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    Want a nice range gun.

    Different directions to go...

    Les Baer Premier II

    http://www.lesbaer.com/duty.html

    (or other Les Baer)

    SIG 226 X5 Tactical

    http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=38&productid=144

    My current gun is a HK P2000SK 9mm I use for carry.

    It would be nice to own a nice 1911.

    The 226 X5 Tactical is in 9mm which is what I have and I had a P229 and like the quality of SIG if ya get a good example.

    The LB PII and 226 X5 Tac are the same price, just under $1400.

    I have smallish hands- so the 1911 would be a better grip, but the 226 isn't bad.

    Hmmmm....

    What say you folks?
     
  2. Dean407

    Dean407 XDTalk Member

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    Will go with the Baer...just deciding which one.
     
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    I_Route XDTalk 500 Member

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    Les Baer hands down.
     
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    Yes the Baer for sure. I have 1 AR from them and a custom carry full size. You can't go wrong as lonmg as you break it in before using it to defend yourself.
     
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    I will go the LB route. :)
     
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    LB Thunder Ranch model is what I would choose.
     
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    I_Route XDTalk 500 Member

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    Is the Baer used? $1400 sounds pretty cheap since they usually go for about 1700-1800USD.
     
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    My new Concept II (5") arrived yesterday. It was $1340 plus shipping. Great gun and price.
    Dave
     
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    I_Route XDTalk 500 Member

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    Les must be giving dealers a break these days. In the past you almost always paid list for them. Wonder if he is trying to lighten the U-Haul out of Illinois...

    List for the C II is $1570.00. Pretty good price you got there. I am sure you will love it. I have an X-Treme Tacitcal and I love it.
     
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    What? Link or pic, maybe?
     
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    Those sound like pretty different guns. Do you want a 9mm or a .45??

    I've never been a SIG fan. I'm sure they're good guns and all but I don't care for their control layout and they seem pricey. Their model number system is also confusing to to a non-enthusiast. So I can't really comment on the SIG.

    Les Baer, I think, is the best gun for the money when you start getting into semi-custom 1911s. There's nothing tactical about the PII, it will have a great looking blued finish, wood grips, adjustable sights. If you wanted a more tacticalish Baer there are models with fixed sights and Baer-Coat. The TRS is a cool gun, it also comes with thin grips which I hate but you may like for a smaller grip.

    You could also go with a hard chromed TRS or one of their stainless models. Or have whichever gun finished with Baer Coat or Black-T or whatever.

    Sucks to have to make these decisions huh?
     
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    Les Baer. My TRS is my favorite firearm.

    "When you buy the best you only cry once."
     
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    Les Baer TRS. I would be wary of a used one. Les has gained some notoriety for not addressing some of the problems with his guns. A couple of people I knew called Clint and he called Les and the problem was taken care of stat. I personally know of three Premier II's that didn't function and a local shop does not want to carry them anymnore because of chronic problems. Here is a nice one.

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    That's a nice gun from Davidson's. I like the standard grips and mag well.
     
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    That is one reason I went with the Davidson's one. They offer the warranty so they get to deal with LB. Have to say though, it is one tight mamma-jamma. I broke my Brownells plastic barrel bushing wrench when I first went to disassemble it. The one that LB sent with the gun, also plastic, did not break. Granted the Brownells one was almost 20 years old...
     
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    Yeah, that's a common gripe about them, even with the Thunder Ranch guns. I have two Wilson Combat 1911's that shoot awefully damned good and I turn the bushings with my fingers on both guns, which were built eight years apart and shoot about 1" at 20 yards pretty easy. I have to say that Les Baers do shoot better, but they seem to sacrifice a little reliability. Not acceptable to me.
    Some time ago, I saw an article quoting Les as saying he fires 200 rounds through every gun that leaves the shop. If that was the case, then he must spend all day at the range. I don't think so. Most of the guns I have seen won't function for about 200 rounds, then they seem to break in very nicely. One of our shooters has a Concept III that is an absolute tack driver and it works pretty well, too.
     

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