LEO, Strobe light question

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  1. dbraves8

    dbraves8 XDTalk 100 Member

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    This question is for Law Enforcement Officers. I used to have blue and red strobes in my truck. I aint the stupid kind of person to try to pull people over or imperssonate a cop. Anyway i use to find them dumb and never had a reason for them. Lately everytime i turn around i am on the side of the road helping a friend of family member broke down on a busy highway. Either no one slows down since they only see the stock flashers blinking. I am looking to add some red and blue led strobes in my truck. Only time they will be on is when the truck is parked and I am not inside the truck on the side of the road off the road on the grass. Just to grab peoples attention to make them slow down to prevent from getting hit.

    I was wondering is that legal to have them and only on when parked off the road and not on the road actually using them while in control of the vehicle.

    Looking to add a dash light red and blue under the rearview mirror facing forward, along with 2 sets of red/blue led strobes in the front grill, and 2 sets of red/blue led strobes facing out the back window so from the front or back both oncomming and comming traffic can see the lights from both ways to make them aware of the cars on the side of the road. That would be the only time they would ever be on is that legal since i am not in the vehicle and not on the highway i am on the side and the truck is in park and no one inside??

    Thanks
     
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    yellowk9 XDTalk Member Founding Member

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    Why not rig your truck so that your headlights and backup lights act as strobes? Maybe add an orange strobe on top. I don't know about the red lights, but I suspect adding blue lights to your vehicle will be a recipe for trouble even if you don't plan on becoming the "blue light rapist".
     
  3. dbraves8

    dbraves8 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Well i was gonna do hideaways but thats just too much money they are like pretty expensive and i dont want to cut my tail and headlights to mount them, wanting something i can just plug up and control with a switch and remove them when i sell the vehicle. I aint someone that wants to go to prison for 20 years for trying to act like a cop and pull people over. I read they are legal off road use only. So i figure if i am off the road on the grass and the truck is parked and I am not in use i would think its not a big deal. If a cop came by and seen it i would think they would stop and either not worry bout it and put his on to help slow traffic down or tell me i dont need them and he would turn his on and tell me to turn his off and not be an ass to me. I think it would matter what cop I get and what kind of day they are having. When they are in the truck on the road they wont be on and they are clear and you cant see what color they are until activated.
     
  4. Coastie 585

    Coastie 585 XDTalk 100 Member Founding Member

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    That is completely and 100% illegal. Do not, I repeat, do not install EMERGENCY VEHICLE LIGHTS in your civilian vehicle. How many times do you pull off the side of the road and help people that you feel a need to install lights in your vehicle?

    You want red and blue lights, become a police officer.

    In msot states it is illegal to have red/blue lights installed in yuor vehicle if you are on public roads/property.
     
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    StarbaseSSD XDTalk 100 Member

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    By "Off Road Use Only" I believe they mean like REALLY OFF ROAD, like back in the trails, cross-country, indoor exhibits, etc. Most states regulate the use of lights like that. Indiana Red/blue indicates LEO, Red is Fire/EMS, Blue is Volunteer Firefighters in POVs, Green is EMS in POV. Yellow is for all other vehicles. I used to get into trouble in KY occasionally with my blue light, would have to switch to Green or cover when traveling. In another life I was an EMT with a paid department and a Volunteer department and would respond POV a lot.
     
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    ryr8828 XDTalk 3K Member

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    Buy some shiny triangles.

    And an xdsc.
     
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    you can have flashing amber, thats it, like a tow truck.
     
  8. dbraves8

    dbraves8 XDTalk 100 Member

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    by the way I live in Florida so LEO from florida please chime in, guys that arent 100% sure and say its dumb or stupid dont blow the thread up thanks guys
     
  9. Coastie 585

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    I am an LEO from Florida. I already told you it is illegal but since you obviously don't believe me (What would I know) Ill post the statute for you.

    And yes, it is stupid, really, really stupid.
     
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    Here you go, it is pretty clear that you can not have red or blue lights in your vehicle. If for some reason you have any more questions feel free to ask.

    316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.--
    (1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.

    (2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.

    (3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, and the Department of Corrections as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles owned or leased by private security agencies may show or display green and amber lights, with either color being no greater than 50 percent of the lights displayed, while the security personnel are engaged in security duties on private or public property.

    (4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.

    (5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.

    (6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.

    (7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.

    (8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.

    (9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.
    (10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318. <SMALL>
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    Don't say it is stupid? It IS stupid! Why do you feel the need to have red/blue? The color is not what get's the attention...the actual flash is. Amber strobes would get the same attention. It kinda sounds like you're one of those guys that always wanted to be a cop but never made it. I'm not trying to put you down or anything, but you seem set on red/blue, there has to be a reason. And yes, it is 100% illegal. Don't do it! Head and tail light flashers won't run you nearly as much as a mirror light/ grille lights/ and dual strobes in rear. Sounds like you need to get some friends who don't break down so much! :D
     
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    It is like he doesn't believe it is illegal. :confused:
     
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    I believe you on this topic. But as to your leo status. The Coast Guard is only quasi leo's. They have no enforcement ability outside of working navigable water ways and on the coast guard bases themselves. They do not have police authority in town for example. We have a coast guard base here and I have to chuckle when some 19 year old kid tells me he is a leo too. Sorry but its not the same thing. Not that the Coast Guard does not provide a valuable service they do, they are not cops however.
    Pat
     
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    I think it's kinda funny that the entire reason he wants to get the lights is to impersonate a police officer in order to scare other drivers in to driving safer around his vehicle. Shouldn't take more than common sense to see how this can't possibly be legal.
     
  15. ThumperMX113

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    In Florida, I don't think you can even have clear strobes unless you have a permit for them or can prove you need them for work. I'm not positive on the law though.
     
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