Law allows veterans to salute during National Anthem

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  1. Ed Ely

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    VA Department of Veterans Affairs
    Office of Public Affairs
    Media Relations
    Washington, DC 20420
    (202) 461-7600
    www.va.gov

    News Release

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    October 30, 2008

    New Law Authorizes Veterans' Salutes during National Anthem

    WASHINGTON (Oct. 30, 2008) -- Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform can now render the military-style hand salute during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect this month.

    "The military salute is a unique gesture of respect that marks those who have served in our nation's armed forces," said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake. "This provision allows the application of that honor in all events involving our nation's flag."

    The new provision improves upon a little known change in federal law last year that authorized veterans to render the military-style hand salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, but it did not address salutes during the national anthem. Last year's provision also applied to members of the armed forces while not in uniform.

    Traditionally, members of the nation's veterans service organizations have rendered the hand-salute during the national anthem and at events involving the national flag while wearing their organization's official head-gear.

    The most recent change, authorizing hand-salutes during the national anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel, was sponsored by Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, an Army veteran. It was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14.

    The earlier provision authorizing hand-salutes for veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, was contained in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008, which took effect Jan. 28, 2008.

    Ed
     
  2. gsh341

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    Very nice.
     
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    Good deal. One question on that, covered or uncovered? I'd feel odd saluting without a cover on. :)
     
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    It doesn't matter. Saluting is permissible with or without a cover. It's like when you report to an officer in their office. (Remove cover as you enter the building, approach officer's desk, salute, wait for return salute, order arms.)

    Since many people don't wear hats outside, you can be assured that this was discussed and deemed to be a non-issue.
     
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    Uncovered may be an issue with us MARINES. We don't salute indoors uncovered and unarmed. That wonderful MARINE training will be hard to forget.
     
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    Moezilla XDTalk 500 Member Founding Member

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    Exactly why I asked Bobert and why it would feel odd. lol

    Semper Fi!
     
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    Marines don't salute when reporting to an officer in their office? You learn something new every day.

    102 NAVY AND MARINE CORPS HISTORY, CUSTOMS, AND COURTESIES

    FM 7-21.13 Chapter 4, Customs, Courtesies, and Traditions



     
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    The only time I would wear cover indoors was if I was armed...ARMY reg. I see your point, but the new law says that we CAN render a salute, so it's not manditory if we're in civies.
     
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    Yeah, I think it goes back to the days when Marines were on board ships, and part of the ship's company. I groan every time I see movies with Marines saluting uncovered and/or in doors (I think Gomer Pyle did it all the time).

    Anyway, I thought it was ok to salute the flag if you have a VFW cap on. I and my fellow VFW members have been doing it forever. If I just have a ball cap, on then I remove it and hold my hand over my heart.
     
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    Interesting, I didn't know service members weren't allowed to salute the colors when not in uniform.
     
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    Long overdue!
     
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    Marines salute indoors only when covered and under arms (on duty, wearing your duty belt) such as Duty NCO or armed guard duty, similar to Army CQ.
     
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    100% correct RR.

    I'd kick a Marine out of my office if he walked in and saluted me uncovered.
     
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    Amen...I cant salute uncovered and wont salute with a BASS Pro Hat on at a ball game either..
    Think I'll just put my cap over my heart and stand at the position of attention...;)
     
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    Navy is same as the MC when it comes to saluting indoors. Only if your covered as part of an armed guard/watch. You'd be surprised how many Marine and Army recruiters I've seen on school campus' outdoors and uncovered.

    You've earned the right to choose.
     

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