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  1. CanyonXDSC

    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    I'm just about to order the first parts for my build. Everything so far is from PSA, although I'll be looking around for Olive Drab furniture and a stripped lower. I've never built an AR before, but my buddy who's was an armorer when he was in the army is gonna go through it with me.

    From what I've gathered all I'll need is what's below, plus a stripped lower, and furniture. Am I missing anything?

    (UPDTAED SHOPPING LIST ADDED BELOW)

    I just want to make sure i'm not missing anything. I'm sure people have been over this many times, I'm just excited and want to make sure I'm not missing anything.


    Thanks in advance.
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    Here's the updated shopping list. I think I've got everything on here, although the stripped lower will be ordered later to avoid the 11% tax.

    Palmetto State Armory Classic LPK
    $49.95

    PSA M4 Furniture kit - OD
    $59.95

    PSA 16'' M4A1 Upper
    Stripped Upper
    1 x Palmetto State Armory 16" 5.56 M4A1 Upper $349.99
    BCG Option:
    1 x Bolt Carrier Group $80.00
    Select charging handle
    1 x Add AR15/M16 Charging Handle $17.95
    Handguard Option:
    1 x Carb handguards Black $0.00
    Flash Hider Option:
    1 x A2 Flash Hider $0.00
    Sight Option:
    1 x Rear MBUS ODG $50.00
    Total: $497.94

    Magpul Polymer Rail
    Choose Size:
    2 x Magpul Polymer Rail - L5 (5'')
    $17.00

    PSA AR15 Lower
    Select Marking Option:
    1 x PSA Lower Safe/Fire $79.95

    Complete 6 Position Mil-Spec Buffer Tube Assembly
    $39.95

    Midwest Industries AR Stock Wrench
    $6.99


    Anyone see anything I'm missing?
     
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    Welcome to the fun, expensive but fun :)
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    Tweaked the list a little bit, decided I'd rather spend $ on optics than on ODG furniture. Got it ordered, will order a case, sling, and the stripped lower in just a bit.

    MIDWEST INDUSTRIES AR STOCK WRENCH
    PALMETTO STATE ARMORY CLASSIC LOWER BUILD KIT
    AR OPTICS PACKAGE
    Please Choose Optic Package
    1 x Vortex Strikefire Red/Green Dot & Black Rear MBUS*
    MAGPUL PMAG 20 ROUND POLYMER MAGAZINE
    Choose Color
    1 x Magpul PMAG 20rd Black*
    MAGPUL POLYMER RAIL
    Choose Size:
    2 x Magpul Polymer Rail - L5 (5'')*
    PSA 16'' M4A1 UPPER
    Stripped Upper
    1 x Palmetto State Armory 16" 5.56 M4A1 Upper*
    BCG Option:
    1 x Bolt Carrier Group*
    Select charging handle
    1 x Add AR15/M16 Charging Handle*
    Handguard Option:
    1 x MOE Carb HG Black
    Flash Hider Option:
    1 x A2 Flash Hider*
     
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    I think you are making a great choice on the optics package. I ordered my MBUS on a Monday and got the email from Palmetto about the optics package on a Friday. I missed out on that deal. At that price ($179.) it is like you are getting the MBUS for $10. Awesome deal.
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    That was my thought too. It seemed to good of a deal to pass up, even with the small complaints people have about the Vortex.

    I've never mounted optics on an AR before, Do you know if there is there anything special that I'll need to do to get the MBUS/Red Dot/Front Sight in a perfectly straight line?
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    I shot PSA an email, I'll post here when I hear back to let others know.
     
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    Not trying to be to technical... But you may want to read up on paralaxing lenses. Corrective / non corrective... etc.

    Also your red dot is technically never going to shoot a perfectly straight line since it is not looking down the barrel.

    From my general knowledge... Zero your sight @ 25 yards and it will be zeroed for 300 yards as well. Many of the optics have quick adjustments for range after your initial zero.

    Hope this was helpful! I also just got my first AR recently! Blast to shoot... bloody expensive though.
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    Sorry about that, I should clarify.

    I've read a bit about the lenses and know about the differences in POA with the red dot vs irons, I was asking about physically getting them in a straight line on top of the rifle.
     
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    Good rings and a spacer is all ya need! :p
     
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    On the one rifle I had with a Strikefire, the standard AR mount lined right up and provided an absolute co-witness.
     
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    Looks good to me.
     
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    1xdmshooter XDTalk 500 Member

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    Very nice. You should be our at the range shortly. Post some pics when you get it all together.
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    Just ordered my stripped lower. Found a local guy that does transfers for 15$, instead of the 50 freakin dollars that both the LGS wanted.

    I ran the numbers and here's what I came up with for totals:

    Total cost OTD for a bushmaster,2 mags, and case from the LGS: $874.48

    Total cost for my AR, built the way I want it, including 2 mags, a nice case, stock wrench, and a BUIS(package deal, so cheaper) = $767.05

    Saved $107.43
    So that part ended up as a good deal financially. I lose a factory warranty(although I'm not sure what PSA offers) but I get the knowledge/experience of building/maintaining the gun from the ground up.

    With the $ I saved I bought:
    1000rds of .223: $109.79
    So by building myself I effectively got 1000rds free with the gun.

    After that I added the following, which I would have purchased no matter where I got the AR:
    Rail kit(x2) for hand gaurd.
    Bipod(although this will be shared between the AR and my 10/22
    Red dot optic w/ magnifier: Went with the Vortex Strikefire through PSA, would have ended up with something similar otherwise. Bought as a package deal with a BUIS, saving between 15$ and 35$ depending on where I bought a BUIS.


    My original budget was 1100 for a store bought AR, not including ammo or other goodies, so now I can tell the girlfriend that I SAVED money by doing it this way :p

    Once all the parts come in I'll post pics of the build.
     
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    I just tell my girlfriend all my guns are significantly cheaper than they are... :)

    550 for that brand new AR-15.... YUP!

    350 dollars on that new XDM... Sure was!
     
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    awesome savings everyone loves savings. cant wait for pics.

    side note where did you purchase 1000 rounds for basicly 110 bucks? and what brand is the .223 ammo you bought?
     
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    With that price, I'm assuming you bought some brand of cheap Russian steel-cartridge ammo. I would have cautioned you to try some first in your new rifle before buying a large quantity, as many ARs, from both high and low quality companies, won't shoot steel case ammo. It varies from rifle to rifle, even among guns from the same manufacturers. You can search the net and find hundreds of posts saying my XXXXX AR won't shoot _____ (fill in the blank, Brown Bear, Wolf, Tula, etc) and replies from others saying "but my XXXXX shoots _____ fine! You must be doing something wrong."
     
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    Didn't even pick up on that...

    Just bought ammo a few days ago... Ran me 120 dollars for 300 rounds of American Eagle brass.

    Hard to find brass ammo for under .40 a round.
     
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    CanyonXDSC XDTalk 100 Member

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    Sorry all, just looked over my posting/replies and realized that I accidentally doubled the round count for the .223. I normally buy ammo in 1k round increments, and I didn't make the distinction in my head.

    Here's what I picked up from CTD.

    AMM-2905 .223 Remington TulAmmo FMJ 55 Grain 500 Round Box 3241 FPS Steel Cased Polymer Coated Made In Russia 1 $109.79

    I don't plan on reloading .223 so I didn't go looking for brass.
     

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