In-line Water Storage

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  1. PistolEd

    PistolEd XDTalk 1K Member

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    I was working in the basement cleaning up the furnace room, and I noticed I have space for a tank. What I'm wondering, is there any reason why I couldn't get a tank which could just be "in-line" with the normal water as a constantly cycled source of water that could be used if SHTF. I'm imagining having a valve system on it which could either bypass (in the case of contaminated water) the tank or it would be in-line to constantly cycle fresh water through it while the systems are functioning normally.

    Kind of like a water heater, without the heater...

    Is this a bad idea?

    I've been building up a supply of water, but I'm realizing it probably doesn't last forever since I don't think water is packaged to the same level as canned goods are, so my stock will have to be rotated. Is my assumption true, or will bottled water last "forever"?
     
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    Bottled water will not last forever ... Everything has a shelf life, and bottled water is pretty low, because it is expected to be used long before contaminants can leech through the plastic.

    That's actually the biggest problem I've read about long term storage of anything, in plastic ... The worst thing to do, is store a plastic contained on cement.

    Concerning your tank,
    YES you could do this ... All you need is a tank that can handle city water pressure $$$.

    And that will be a problem, if you don't us the right type of tank ... You really need a tank that has a pressure rating, or it might someday fail due to slow deterioration of it's integrity.
    So forget the typical water storage tanks that are sold for non-pressurized use.

    IMO,
    Your best bet would be a water heater, and just don't hook up the heating element.
     
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    Without any real knowledge on the topic, I'm not a big fan of the large circulating storage tank. Say some sort of bacteria should get in there and start growing, it has the potential to get every where. Personally, I like the idea of fill and store.

    I've started buying 2.5 gallon jugs everytime I go to the store. Once my stock is built up, can start using the oldest container to rotate the supply out.
     
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    The city water supply is much larger than what Ed is talking about, and the water circulates, just like it does when it comes out of the faucet, plus it has enough chlorine in it, that is unlikely to have critters growing in it, unless the city supply becomes contaminated.
     
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    This is why you put a lever shutoff valve on it...if the city water supply goes to poo, you can isolate that 30 gallon tank before it goes bad...thus the "stored" water will only be a few days old rather than months if stored statically

    Get one of those 110v or even the 12vdc water pumps and some hose and connect to the bottom relief faucet valve...instant 30 gallon water supply...that should last a good long while

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    I'm not following this idea ... Can you expand what you're talking about ?

    I ask because if city water pressure is available, a pump won't do anything, that can't be done via city pressure.

    Help please !!
     
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    Gravity/water weight would be enough to force the water out of the bottom drain. I would think one would only need a pump if the water in the hose is to go above the level in the tank once the pressure has been equalized. This is assuming that the city water pressure is gone.

    The problem with water from a tank that is to be used from the drain at the bottom is that that's also where all the sediments and whatnot collect/fall. It would have to be filtered.
     
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    There have been a few of these threads. I think semi-in-line is the best bet. By that I mean have it feed the toilet or some other appliance so it gets enough turn-over to keep fresh, but little enough that it could be isolated in case of a boil advisory before it gets contaminated.

    I know if I had to drain and refill something every few months, it wouldn't get done and I'd be SOL when I needed it.
     
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    What happens if you plumb this in and while you're out of the house a boil order is issued.

    Your back up water supply would not be safe to drink because it is in-line. You wouldn't be any better off than you would have been if you hadn't installed it.

    Now if you isolated the storage tanks and didn't let them constantly circulate it would be a different story.
     
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    My suggested supply would be fine until you flush a few times.

    Now if you have burglars breaking in to use the toilet, you've got bigger problems than unsecured SHTF water supplies.

    ps. even tainted water would be as useful as water thats been sitting in a tank for a year.
     
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    Let's say there is a break in the main that happens while you are in the shower and you only notice because the water starts to smell funky. Shut off pressure to the store tank, dump in the correct ammount of bleach to purify, wait 12 hours and enjoy. You may need to filter if some level of solids got into the water. But you should have a whole house filter anyway.
     
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    Stop complicating things with a bunch of what if BS ;)

    Storage and filtration, or preferably purification, are separate issues, IMO.

    To ponder the ultimate is a waste of time, and resources ... Find a tank and go for it, Ed.
     
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    you boil it.
     
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    I think what the OP is talking about, is something like this: I'm on a community well, when power goes out, the well either stops or is on backup power. When backup power runs out, the pump stops. The water isn't contaminated, there just is no pressure. (assuming the big tank runs empty). As for the boil order, that's different, that assumes water is still flowing (or there wouldn't be anything to boil).
    I know I'd rather have 100 gallons of contaminated water, than no water at all.
     

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