Hunting with a 9mm?

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  1. nontrad

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    I'm sorry about the stupid question, but I'm pretty new to the world of firearms and completely new to the world of hunting, so I figured I'd ask. Does anybody hunt with 9mm handguns?

    I mean, conceptually, I guess I could see small game, like rabbits or birds, but is it possible to hunt with a 9mm round?

    Thanks ahead of time, guys!

    John
     
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    I hunt for raccoon with 9mm
     
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    small game perhaps, but think about range and accuracy at range - a handgun is no match for a rifle in that regard.

    big game - no. Bear for example - the only thing 9mm will do is pizz off the bear, or perhaps put yourself out of misery after the bear mauls you for upsetting him ;)

    I have not hunted for years and never really considered myself much of a hunter, but when out to range with either of my two magnum revolvers have met revolver hunters who use magnums. I think anything less than magnum does not have enough power.
     
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    I've thought about hunting javelina with a 9mm, probably could do it.
    But I only got back into hunting this year after being out here 10 years.
    I missed a lot of quail this fall!

    Here's one for the Ammo Can: 12-year old shotgun shells shoot just fine!
     
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    not from what I've heard/read - any of the handgun hunters I have met take Javelina with magnums. An acquaintance who bow hunts Javelina has been saying I should join him with my Blackhawk. Tempting, but I am of mindset that what you hunt you must eat, and I have no interest in eating a stinky critter whose closest cousin is a rat.
     
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    You could use 9mm. I've seen dear around my stand less than 10 yards away and could have easily dropped them with any round out there. Its all about placement. I got a buddy that dear hunts with a silenced .22 long. Hits em right behind the ear and they drop like a rock.
     
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    Thanks for the info, Cd! I really hadn't heard if javelinas were any good to eat, I was figuring "pork", but like you I only hunt it if I'll eat it.
     
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    I see javelinas in front of my parents house pretty often. Now every time I see one, I'm going to think about a nearly free pulled pork recipe. haha.
     
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    I have taken injured hogs with a 9. They were down, and a single shot behind the ear takes care of them. Seems cruel to hunt anything large with 9mm.

    Rabbits and birds are hunted with shotguns for a reason. The small, fast, and change direction quickly.
     
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    a good 9mm should be capable of downing a deer assuming you have good shot placement. i really wouldnt reccomend it tho unless your a good shot and very close range. i sometimes bring my .357 to the stand and if something walks in close enough i will try my luck with it. hogs....good luck. the hogs around here make my .270 seem like a bb gun.
     
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    This pops up from time to time on here. Someone is always so proud of their 9mm they want to prove it's virtues. Basically the answer is: Can you hunt with a 9mm? Yes, where legal. Should you hunt with a 9mm? No. Why would you when so many better choices are available.
     
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    Semi-auto handguns are illeagl to hunt with here in PA...but if we could I would definately take out my XD 9mm subcomact for squirrel...I think it would be a great challenge!
     
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    I've witnessed my uncle take a whitetail at 20 yards with a Hi-Power 9mm, ran about 50 yards and dropped dead. Hit her dead on in the lungs, not sure what ammo he was using, i believe it was +p just dont know brand or grains. Its possible, though you better be really close and very sure of your shot. Alot of people say 9mm doesn't have the power, and that you shouldn't use anything under 1,000 ft/lbs energy for deer, yet your average compound bow only generates 300-400 ft/lbs, comparative to a 9mm.
     
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    After you've seen a magnum round bounce off of a Javelina, and really piss it off ... You'll never think about using a 9mm, EVER ;)
     
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    An arrow works differently then a bullet. It is cutting thru a larger area and does a lot of tissue damage. Any one who bow hunts knows the difference.

    A 9mm bullet, depending on bullet type, may do a lot of damage up close and not expand at all at further ramges. The 9mm was designed for hunting but war. Use a cartridge that was designed with hunting in mind. BTW while a .22lr may kill a deer at extreme close range I would not use it either, besides both are illegel for hunting large game in Wyoming. Where you are at it may be different, but that doesn't change my opinion about what's right to hunt with.
     
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    Hunting is 90% shot placement. Shot placement isn't so easy with a handgun at most hunting distances. For every "stopped it in its tracks" story, there are probably 2 "I think I may have gut shot it, and it ran off" untold stories that people don't brag about.

    ps, in MI, a 380 single stack is legal state wide and a 25 is legal in most of the state. I don't think anyone would recommend using either of those on deer.
     
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    I bow hunt every year, been in archery since i was 10 or so. I understand the physics on a arrow wound and a bullet wound. They are entirely different animals. An arrow generates most of its killing power from its mass and several razor sharp blades. Just stating the fact that a 9mm round and an average compound bow generate somewhat equal ft/lbs of energy upon impact, so a 9mm could theoreticlly be capable of killing a deer, and quickly if the shot placement is right and the ranges are very close, like bow hunting. Shot placement is more paramount in bow hunting that with any firearm. One wrong shot with an arrow and you've just lost a $20-$40 arrow and the deer. As for hunting with a handgun in Michigan it must be .35 cal or larger regardless of where in the state you are. Seeing as 9mm convert to .355in, 9mm is legal to hunt with. It is legal however above the rifle/shotgun line to hunt with a .22 or larger centerfire rifle, which really doesn't make sense but theres some creative red necks in this state...trust me. I plan on hunting with my XDM .40 this fall, i'll be sitting on the edge of a corn feild where i've dropped the last 2 this past fall at about 20 yards. I'm sure it won't get far...and if it does, its got 3 more hunters to worry about before it gets away.
     
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    Ok so not an XD or a 9... (.357 Sig) but...






    Shot placement is key!

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    BTW Badgers F'ing STINK. Nasty things.
     
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    ummm.... I was kind of under the impression those were a protected species....

    well upon further review, I guess not for the most part.

    and of course no discussion of badgers would be complete without;
    Badger Badger Badger.com! The Original Dancing Badgers!
     
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    North of "the line" handgun calibers have the same limitations as rifles (very few). I thought that law was larger than 22 rim fire, or center fire. Either way, the 25 acp is a legal hunting round for most of the state. South of the line Handguns must be 35 cal or larger and strait walled.

    South of the lines you couldn't use an XDm, too many rounds can fit in the mag. I believe the limit is 8. I think you could plug the mag though. To the north, the law doesn't mention a handgun cap limit, but some DNR officers may try to enforce (improperly IMO) the south of the line limit (8, I believe) or the semi auto rifle limit (5).
     

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