Discussion in 'CrossBreed Holsters' started by 09hemi, Mar 5, 2011.
What are your thoughts cow hide vs horse hide? If location is part of ur decision I live in Indiana.
From the FAQ at www.kramerleather.com
"Is horsehide really better for holster making than cowhide?
Horsehide is an extremely dense, non-porous leather. Until the end of the 1930's horsehide was the leather of choice for products that required extreme durability. The density and non-porous nature of horsehide which makes it such a durable leather, is also the reason that horsehide does not dye uniformly in colors other than black. If multiple pieces are crafted from horsehide and dyed tan or mahogany, there is a very good chance that each piece will have a slight color variations. Black will be uniform. These color variances are considered part of the natural beauty of horsehide and attest to it's authenticity. Horsehide holsters will last longer and withstand considerably more abuse than a cowhide counterpart. U.S. Navy SEAL TEAMS use our horsehide rigs for extended salt water operations. Cowhide will not stand up this kind of use. YES, there is no question about it, horsehide is more durable than cowhide. This however, is not say that cowhide doesn't make a fine holster that will provide many years of hard service if properly cared for. But, if you want the ultimate in holster leather, horsehide is the answer.
There is a big difference, this is from our FAQ page
Q2. Should I get a holster made of horsehide?
Answer: Horsehide is a denser and tighter grained flesh than cowhide. This results in it being more moisture resistant. Customers in very humid climates or who tend to sweat heavily find this to be a useful option as horsehide tolerates dampness better. Horsehide is only available in natural as it's moisture resistance can also cause it to not take dye well. Additionally, the natural finish is very attractive on Horsehide.
Horsehide is a limited option as it is not always available, during times when it is not available, the option will be removed from the selections. In other words, if you see it, you can order it.
ok guys I know I have read that I wanted person opinions
My apologies, I thought perhaps a direct answer to your question was in order.
My personal opinion is that you don't need it in IN, unless you sweat alot.
I've worn a cowhide supertuck and minituck for about a year now. Can't say I see any reason to get the horsehide. Granted, its a personal opinion, and we all know what that means. I sweat a LOT, but i've never had any issues with my cowhide. I'm just south of ya in Ky.
Hey Mark what is that current wait on orders like if I place one in the next o lets say 10 minutes?
$10 says he says 4-6 weeks.
From some others who have ordered recently it looks like a little over a month.
In my opinion it is worth the wait!!
^^^^ I ordered on jan 26th and got mine yesterday. (love it)
Here's a nice write-up by Andy Arratoonian of Horseshoe Leather. He's been making holsters longer than most of the people out there. He knows leather, and sees no advantages in horsehide.
Holsters in Cowhide or Horsehide from Horseshoe Leather
^^^^ andys wrong, period
Horse is denser, more durable and more moisture resistant
If you need the extra moisture resistance, it IS a better choice and worth the cost
Andy's the odd man out on this subject, with almost all current makers saying the same thing as I have
I've had both for CB IWB holsters.
I agree with Mark.
Living in the Texas heat, I've found horsehide better than cowhide.
I like it better because it is denser, more durable and more moisture resistant.
I found the cowhide too flexible and soft after breaking in...
I only carry OWB for now, and cowhide works just fine since it doesn't touch my skin.
But for IWB (even with a t-shirt), I'd have to say horsehide is better..
I figured for $15 extra it's worth the gamble. No one EVER says that the cowhide is better than the horsehide but many say the horsehide is better than the cowhide.
It gets hot in Southern CA. I figured for sweat and longevity the horsehide was worth it.
i have one in horse hide....love it
Hey someone owes me $10, haha
To expand a little on my previous comments, horse is EXTREMELY hard to "work" (compared to cow) if you're boning an all leather holsters.
This may be part of why Andy recommends against it, it's ALOT more work for someone doing hand boned rigs
In our instance, we don't bone it, it remains flat and we rely on you wearing it to shape it to yourself and the gun over time.
I have the greatest respect for Andy Artoonian, but I just cannot agree with his views on horsehide, I just do not find them to be true in my own experience nor that of many many customers.
I have a Supertuck in Horsehide, and a Supertuck in Cowhide. I also have Quikclip in Horse. They are all for S&W 3913/5904s, which are carry-favorites for both my wife and myself, and we have several (thanks VERY MUCH, Crossbreed, for remembering us 3rd Gen fans, most holster-manufacturers don't).
I actually use the Supertuck Cow most, and we live in humid NC, and I'm a sweaty guy in the Summer. I find them all equally comfortable. The Cowhide is softer, and that's perhaps why I use it most, and I honestly can't tell much difference in comfort between Horse and Cow on sweaty days. That said, if one gets damp, I'll lay it aside for a day and wear one of the other ones. Good reason to own more than one for your main carry-pieces, I guess. So... get whatever you please first, then get the other, is the actual answer to the question.
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