Firing 'out of battery'

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  1. G.Rick

    G.Rick XDTalk Member

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    Hello all...new to the forum! I've been reading a number of posts before joining and came across this term that I never heard before. Now that I'm familiar with what it means, is this a condition that can be prevented on the my part? Is this caused by a failure of a certain component of the firearm? Thanks.
     
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    Fireing out of battery is caused by the barrel not going fully closed which locks the barrel with the slide chamber containing the fireing pin. There are 2 things which can cause an out of battery condition. 1) you can control and prevent is holding on to the slide too long while chambering a round. Don't hold it, let the spring do it's job, release it from the locked position, or the full back position. 2) For many reasons a cartridge will not fully chamber due to too long an OAL, not properly sized round or a bullet shape that does not feed up the ramp properly. The way you can control that is to change ammo types, some shapes of bullets just do not work in various guns. If you are consistantly having a problem, note the brand/type of ammo and do not buy any more of that particular load. 99 % of the times of out of battery are not the firearm's problem, it is an ammo problem.
    Note, Limp wristing can cause failure to feed and out of battery.
     
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    It is rare to happen. These weapons are designed not to be able to fire if the round is not properly chambered. Most times guns blow people will say out of battery but it is rare in a handgun. But if you are ever in the situaton Do not push your muzzle into a aggressor it might push the slide out of battery when you fire.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. Rayikeo, you mentioned that ammo is the cause the majority of times. Are there any brands of ammo to avoid particularly for the XD45?
     
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    The first one that comes to mind is flat nosed lead bullets, and some brands of hollow points. It is a trial and error procedure as differant guns will feed different bullets. If you use lead ,try round nose ones. For non-competitive shooters stick to plated bullets and shoot a few of them to see if they chamber. Plated bullets usually shoot well in both round nose and hollowpoints but if you are going to use them as your self defense loads shoot enough to make sure they are reliable in your gun.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    The only time an xd will fire out of battery is if there is wear or damage to the disconector, the striker can not be released until the slide is fully closed.

    If you can make it fire, using only a primed case, then it needs to go back to springfield for repair!

    don
     
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    Also semi-wadcutters (SWC). They have a tendency to snag on the rim of the spent round as the next one feeds.
     
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    I've never seen limpwristing cause failures to feed only failures to eject (stove pipes).

    My XD will fire while not completely locked up.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Do you have an aftermarket spring installed? Can you pull the barrel out? If so remove it and try pulling the spring while it' a bit lower to the slide.
     
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    Try it with a primed case, see if the primer fires, if it does then it needs repair.

    don
     
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    Welcome from North Central Texas.

    I think you'll like it here.

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    If the striker drops it will fire no need to try a primed case. I can assure you that the disconnector is not worn.
     
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    Thats strange Agalindo becuase I have attemtped this and the firing pin hits the firing pin block because the lever does not engage the pin block.
     
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    Then the gun is not safe to use!

    don
     

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