curious... can too much oil hurt the gun?

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  1. duality

    duality XDTalk Newbie

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    I'm still very new to guns and I am going to attempt to clean it in a little bit. I've already had the gun apart and back together 100000 times so thats not what worries me. I just want to make sure how much oil to use.

    thanks
     
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    Great question I just cleaned my guns last night and had the same question and was getting ready to post. But you beat me to it. :) Can't wait for responses.
     
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    ...but too much oil has the bad side affect of collecting junk. I have been told that you should use it sparingly and only where it is truly needed, such as metal on metal wearing areas. But if you use the good stuff, it only requires a 'drop' or two, literally.
     
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    General rule I follow

    -Guns that get little use or safe queens
    Light coat of oil on all parts, meaning it looks wet but but can't draw in it, same with magazines

    -carry pistols (I live in the desert)
    Internal parts of the slide are moderately coated with oil, you cant draw in it, but it looks wet, Trigger springs and frame internals light coated with oil, I use a dry lube on my carry mags, I use Pedros it's commonly used on high end bicycle chains.

    -Rifles and shotgun
    Light coat on all part, A little heavier if it gonna be in a wet environment, lighter if it's really cold.

    -AR
    WET I like to run my bolt with enough oil that it's not running, but wet enough I can draw in it.
     
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    As long as you keep the striker channel dry and free of lube, youre good to go.

    the only issue with too much oil or lube is if it makes your grip slippery.

    Way more underlubed guns out there than over lubed ones.
     
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    Bullseye. The hard carbon powder residue and general crud inside the gun dissolves into the oil.... and oil plus particle residue = polishing compound.

    I generall use grease and oil blended because it holds the lube where it needs to be. Oil basically just runs straight south.
     
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    Maybe if you shoot it so much the oil catches fire!!
     
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    I always love watching the oil smoke out of the gun after the first round or two. :)

    I don't know how much is too much but I've been advised that keeping things more wet is better than too dry.

    After cleaning, I use Break Free CLP on a patch, send it through the barrel and give everything a wipe. I put a "drop" of synthetic grease on each of the frame rails, locking block, and the part of the firing pin/striker that extends out under the slide. Reassemble, cycle the action a few times, wipe off all external excess with a clean paper towel and ready to go. If you were to disassemble the gun after that (even after time had passed) it would still look "wet" inside.

    I use my guns often and keep them clean (a buddy was looking inside one of them that had hundreds if not over a thousand rounds through it already and asked if it had ever been fired -- clean) and so far never had a problem with attracting too much dirt.
     
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    You want to make sure the firing pin channel is dry because you don't want that gummed up and so it doesn't spit at you.
     
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    Ok well with every weapon I have, whenever I clean it, I take a cloth and put a little bit of oil onto it, then rub down the interior of the weapon. Just enough so that the parts have a slight "sheen" to them. But not so much as to where it's running off of it. Too much oil will cause it to collect dust and then goo up the inside of your weapon. Which then leads to jams, etc etc. But that's just me.
     
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    ive posted these before here....just a visual of what gets oiled. Just because you do it different doesnt mean its wrong, this is just what i do.

    use an air hose, hose out the gun, run some wet patches through it, scrub it, wet patches again, dry patches, air hose it out, lube the parts indicated. Once a month or so il take the gun ALL the way apart and clean and lube it lightly, including the exterior metal...wipe it down and lightl coat it.

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    I only detail strip it every few months or so.

    The rest of the time it's field style cleanings. Wipe the carbon out of the areas I can reach, bore brush and patch the barrel/chamber. Then I take a q-tip and get it wet with CLP or Rem-Oil then use that q-tip on the load bearing surfaces or anywhere metal on metal contact occurs. It's not enough to make a mess but enough to lube it up.

    Everyone will have their own little ritual for cleaning their firearms. That's just mine. I do notice that some of my older weapons need more lube to function properly than some of my newer weapons with the newer coatings such as the XD. My dad's Glock runs best with VERY light coats of oil on it.
     
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    My XD9 seems to run fine pretty well lubed. First few rounds it will splatter a little oil. I’ve shot it on the dry side as well and that didn’t seem bother it either. I think the XD is pretty forgiving in terms if lube.
    Cheers!
     
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    The XD is also fairly forgiving when it comes to cleaning as well. Remember it's a service weapon. It's designed to function efficiently in stresses that some range/competition guns can't function at all.
     
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    Thank you for this post! I'm a noob XD-45 owner, and this helps me very much in seeing what should be lubed..

    What's the firing pin channel everyone keeps mentioning? Sorry for the noob question!
     
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    Dri-Slide for me. Used it since Viet Nam. MSD with a liquid carrier that evaporates and leaves a non-oily coating on the metal. Disassemble the gun after shooting and there is no sludge on the internals. Go to www.uniquetek.com for more info. Comes in a 4 oz bottle with a needle applicator.
     
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    After a basic cleaning and field strip, when I'm ready to put everything back together, I usually use an oil spray on a rag and then wipe everything down with the rag. Make sure to avoid the fibers on TFOs and other fiber optic sights...I've heard gun oils and lubes can damage them. For the slide and frame rails, I usually use something like a Qtip or a patch and just wipe the rails and the grooves in the frame.

    The XD/Glock/other polymer guns can run dry and have been abused by people who want to test them (read, 15,000- 20,000 rounds without cleaning or lubing). I don't think anything you can do in normal shooting conditions will wear out your gun.
     
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    Looking at the back, where the stiker indicator is is the firing pin channel. Just put a few drops of lube or CLP to keep that lubed up every now and then. You can also remove the slide and lube it from the inside, if it makes it easier (look for the spring & you'll find the channel!)

    You shouldn't really have to disassemble the firing pin assembly it unless you're doing a really detailed strip & clean, so don't worry about it too much.
     
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    Thanks for the diagrams and tips everyone! So how often do you guys clean your XD. A friend of mine cleans his Glock after 10,000 or so rounds. Should it be done more often or does where you carry dictate how often you should clean?
     

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