Concealed Carry laws In PA?

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  1. XD Monger

    XD Monger XDTalk Member

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    Does any one know the concealed carrying laws/rules/regs in PA?

    1. Does it have to be completely concealed under clothing, or can you carry it open on a hip holster? (e.g. walking into wal-mart with my xd clearly visable on my hip) I'd feel stupid for doing that and won't, but just curious.

    2. What other states honor PA carrying permits?

    3. I know that courthouses, schools, colleges are a no go and also establishments that have written rules barring carrying firearms, but what other places or establishments are a no go for carrying a firearm? Can you carry a firearm into a local bar if it doesnt state otherwise?

    And finally:

    4. What are the rules for using deadly force? ( I understand that it is when you or someone else feels that they are in immediate threat of serious bodily harm and you feel that you cannot safely retreat, then deadly force is authorized) Do i understand that correctly?


    If anyone can help out to answer these it would be greatly appreciated. Or if you know of any relevant links or sites to direct me to.

    Thanks guys
     
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    PeninaD XDTalk 100 Member

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    You know what sucks about PA?

    They hand out CCW permits without ensuring the training of the recipient...not a class, not a written or oral test of the laws, not even handing out a pamphlet about the rules....or at least that is my experience in Monroe County (as well as my husband's, and three of our friends).
     
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    same policy here in allentown.. you go in pay like 20 bucks and they hand you your card. i forget if they take a picture or just use your dl picture.
     
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    I actually have mixed feelings about the pay and play policy regarding concealed carry permits.

    But this is what I've gotten from it.

    I think it's up to the individual to be responsible enough to seek out training prior to pursuing a carry permit.

    I'd imagine AK and VT don't require any test.
     
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    poortrader XDTalk 100 Member Founding Member

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    And what's wrong with that? If you think about our surrounding states, they don't even issue CCW's.
     
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    like the one right next door? :?

    Actually I kinda ok with not being able to get a CCW.
     
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    yes that is true about them never handing out any information about the law or regulations. All i did was walk in with $25 and had my permit within 20 mins. All i have done is ask the guys who would most likely know alittle about it....the gun store owners. Havent had the chance to bumb into to any LEO's to ask them yet. But i think i will run down to the sheriffs office in my county (Jefferson) and ask them.
     
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    Exmasonite thanks for the link :)
     
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    poortrader XDTalk 100 Member Founding Member

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    Mine took 3 weeks because I live in the city of Brotherly Love.
     
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    And remember this about your PA License To Carry. You're license say's "Valid Until Expiration Date or Sooner if Revoked". Keeping that in mind, the true test is time. So much for training and classrooms, sometimes a persons conduct in society is the best testing ground :!: .
     
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    Colleges are ok.
    So is open carry.
     
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    I'm not sure which side of the fence I'm on with this one. On once side I believe that you have the RIGHT to carry. Just like they don't have an IQ test for voting, you should be able to carry without having to jump thru a bunch of hurdles to exercise your right. But, on the other hand, I've seen some people at gunstores "flagging" me and others with the guns they are checking out, and I've seen some of the people coming into the office to get their carry permits. Some of them can't even walk and chew gum at the same time! Sad results of inbreeding I guess. :wink: :wink: All in all I'm not sure whats the right course of action, but I guess I wouldn't mind having to take a qualification test if need be. Hell , since I'm a firearms instructor it might even bring some side buisness my way! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
     
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    I completely agree. I live in PA and I think there should be something in order to qualify. Even if it's similar to the written driving test and demonstration of good gun handling. Even if there isn't a test, a person should be required to attend a 1 hour seminar or something.

    I have taken the NRA basic pistol course and I am about to take the NRA Personal Protection in the Home course this weekend. Though not required, I would like to be more educated.
     
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    I'm in the process of applying for mine. Currently, the carbon-copy portion is at my local PD (I dropped it off last Thursday). I called today to ask about the status of it and was told that it's in the Chief's mailbox and he hasn't gotten to it yet, but that I would be called when it is ready. :(

    Oh well, I'm not in any hurry. I view CCW as both a right and a responsibility. I believe it is each permit-holder's personal responsibility to ensure that they are qualified to carry. Although I have had official training in the past (hunter safety courses and the like) as well as lots of parental firearms instruction while growing up, I plan to take some NRA courses at the local range to brush up and to learn new techniques.
     
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    When PA reffers to government funded secondary schools are they specifically only talking about high schools.

    I am very under the impression that (state) college campuses are off limits also and fall under the government funded secondary schools statute. ???

    Anyone factually know the rule to this?
     
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    Colleges are private. The best they could do is post "No Weapons" and get you for trespassing. However I work part time for the Safety and Security Office at a local college and there is a little known fact that they don't share with the students. The borough still owns the sidewalks that run along the streets of the campus, so college "policies" that are not the same as borough ordinances can't be enforced there.

    There are students that get stopped for public drunkeness, that the security officers will ask to "step off the sidewalk out of the way" so that they can cite them, because technically they should call the borough cops to take care of it on borough property. But they do it this way so they don't have to get the little Rich kids in "real" trouble. They also don't tell them that the college has no way of following up on a Campus parking ticket, so if you don't pay it they could never get you for it. That's why a lot of the officers are trained to write borough tickets now.
     
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    Anyone know how long of a wait time is normal for the carbon-copy portion of the application (filled out by the local PD)? I dropped mine off on April 28, so it has been almost 2 weeks. I don't want to be a PITA and keep calling them, but I would like to get this taken care of soon since I need to schedule time off from work to bring the rest of the application back to the county courthouse.
     

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