Companies still trying to rip off people for ammo.

Discussion in 'The Ammo Can' started by MikeyLikesCarbonFiber, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. MikeyLikesCarbonFiber

    MikeyLikesCarbonFiber XDTalk 1K Member

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    I got an email from Lucky Gunner a few days ago and they had 500 rounds of Wolf 115 grain 9mm for $255....the same ammo that was $90 bucks or less this time last year. Ridiculous....
     
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    WHHHAAATT? Steel case to boot?
     
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    Yep....just plain old Wolf.
     
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    'cheaper than dirt' and 'bulk ammo' are both on my NEVER again list.
     
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    You don't have to buy it. I really don't see a problem with it. CTD is a different story.
     
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    Don't think anyone here is buyin' it, just callin' it out.
     
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    That just seems pointless, why call something out that you really have no idea what the profit margin is? Do you know what freedom munitions is charging them wholesale? They do have a right to charge what they want, and make a profit. It is a business. There are people out there paying it or the market would bring the price down. Freedom munitions raised their prices drastically so isn't it a rip off in the first place? Reload or
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    Testy. You can also choose to just not read these posts...
     
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    Your statement makes ZERO sense. Anyone can buy direct from Freedom Munitions and pay .71 a round. I do it all time. If DV8 Arms is paying less then the list price, wholesale price, and then marking it up to more then double list price, you don't see a problem with that? If your paying wholesale then your mark up/profit is list price. Listing at more then double list price is nothing more then price gouging.
     
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    And now we come to the "SO WHAT?" question...people are free to buy from whatever retailer they want to buy from. The retailers will bring their prices into line. If the a company decides to charge more than the market will bear, they will pay for their bad decision as they lose customers. Happens all the time in various markets. If an individual fails to shop around or even after shopping around still goes to the high-priced retailer, for whatever reason, that's their choice.
     
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    I see no problem with it, if some idiot is willing to pay those prices why shouldn't a company take advantage of their stupidity. I don't see it as price gouging, because ammo is a want not need. You don't need ammo to survive like food, etc.., this is simple capitalism the demand far out weighs the supply and prices reflect such.
     
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    I gotta say this....what happens when the food, water, etc runs out...?
    Better have some ammo handy, or when you are the only one with food, water, etc...better have some ammo handy to protect it....
    I would say if you own a gun, ammo is a need...otherwise that's a nice pretty lil ole paperweight ya got there....
     
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    I agree with everything said here, but it is frustrating to shop for ammo only to find you can't afford it anymore
     
  15. MikeyLikesCarbonFiber

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    This is why we were in the situation we were in before. Companies talking advantage of the situation and consumers. Yes the market is coming back down for guns but ammo is still on the edge. The only way the ammo market can normalize is if retails start selling at a normal price and not try to rip people off.

    You have to realize that not everyone is a hardcore gunner and spends day and night on guns and ammo. WE as the "hardcore" gunners in the community need to look out for those people. WE need to help them NOT get ripped off. Nothing wrong with calling out a shady company like this and hope that they either normalize their prices or hope that a thread like this comes up in conversation between a hardcore gunner and a non-hardcore gunner and the company is called out for gouging.

    WE ARE THE FRONT LINE OF GUN COMMUNITY AND WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO LET COMPANIES LIKE THIS KNOW THAT WE WON'T BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO LET OTHERS KNOW OF THEIR SHADY DOINGS.

    We have a 100 threads on how shady and out-of-line CTD is, why is it ok to call them out but not DV8 Arms? If we are going to call out one company for doing the community then we need to call out ALL the companies that are doing our community wrong.
     
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    I guess I don't understand the mentality that someone has something you want, not need, they charge a price they want & think others will pay. How is that ripping you off? Don't like the prices, don't buy, pretty simple. It's not like food, water or gasoline, few options there. Just have the resolve to not buy from dealers, that you feel are being unfair, when they start running sales again. Ahh, few of you will, becasue when capitalism works in your favor, it's all good.
     
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    Well, you can put on your tin star if you want to...but I'm not on the front line of the consumer community. As a group, they're capable of making their own decisions themselves. Some will make wise decisions, some not so wise. Everybody has their own right to make their decisions, informed or not.

    The idea that ammo is high priced because certain people or companies decided to make it high priced shows a decided lack of how free markets work, and how people interact with them. Now, if you're alleging collusion between all retailers, that's one thing. But I know it's not all retailers because prices are all over the place, except that prices are not near what they were several years back.

    When demand goes through the roof, prices will do the same to establish equilibrium in the market. Only when the demand is satisfied will the price come back down.

    When people ask me how I get ammo, I tell them. I don't make online ammo purchases, and of late I haven't bought factory ammo.

    When I first started looking into buying my own guns and ammo, I was steered by one friend to CTD. But I did my own research and ended up going elsewhere, and then I clued in that friend. CTD can do whatever they want, as can DV8. I couldn't care less where others decide to get their ammo.
     
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  19. MikeyLikesCarbonFiber

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    So whats the difference from what I'm doing to what you did? You clued in one friend, I'm cluing in a group of friends :lol: ;-)

    Obviously you do care other wise you wouldn't have told your friend.

    I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, just "cluing" my fiends in to what I see.
     
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    Everyone has the right to make their own choices of what they want to pay .Myself it tells me a lot about a person or business that takes advantage of a situation to make a profit at someone else expense . Hats off to the businesses that ration and keep their prices reasonable so we can all enjoy the sport . When things get better and they will.I will go out of my way to support these businesses . I say thank you to those that do !!
     

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