Calling all 45acp reloaders

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  1. DonXD40

    DonXD40 XDTalk 3K Member

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    OK y'all, I am brand new to reloading, just got a used Dillon Rl550B reloader and will be reloading predominantly for 45acp at first and then 9mm a bit down the road. The 45's will be used in a Kimber Raptor 5" bbl, a XD45 Tac and a Ruger P90 4"(I think) bbl. These will be for general range/target use (just making holes in ppr and bowling pins and such).

    Q1) What is your favorite bullet(brand, type and wt.), powder (brand and type) combo and why?

    Q2) I currently am waiting to receive 1K of Berry's 230gr RN Plated bullets that I ordered from them a few days ago. But I was thinking of picking up some of the 200 gr Plated FP or TC (is there a difference in those 2 and if so, what is it?) So my questions is has anyone heard of or experienced any feed problems with this bullet in any of the previously mentioned firearms?

    Q3) Any general suggestions or need to watch out for kind of info would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks Don (Donxd40)


     
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    ichy_trigger XDTalk 10K Member

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    I use Clays powder, its cheap and shoots great for me with plenty of accuracy.

    Bullets I use Precision Moly 230's.

    Primers I prefer Federal but use Winchester as well.

    Cases, anything I can find thats cheap.


    I load on a 550 as well, the Clays powder will give you lots of loads per pound.
     
  3. Tard

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    Powder: Titegroup
    Bullets: Montana Gold 200 gr
    Primers: Prefer federal but CCI, Winchester are good - no doubt others are good too.
     
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    ohioshooter XDTalk 100 Member

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    Bullets: 230 gr LRN
    Primers: CCI
    Powder: Universal
    Brass: Mixed
     
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    200 Gr lead cast, soo much cheaper than FMJ and not too difficult to clean your barrel after use.

    Bullseye powder is my favorite so far.

    Primers, I've used Remington & CCI, I prefer the remington, they seem to feed better in my press. (Lee Pro 1000)

    Enjoy and be careful to hit the details, don't make many rounds until you make sure they cycle good in your gun.
     
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    SmithErick XDTalk 100 Member Founding Member

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    I am new also. I did order Berry's plated bullets in 9mm and .45. Correct me if im wrong but remember to use Low-Mid range load data for the same size/weight of bullet. Ive read that plated bullets are in a medium between lead and FMJ's.
     
  7. DonXD40

    DonXD40 XDTalk 3K Member

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    Some good feedback guy's but no one is telling me why they like their set-up. Is it cost, runs clean, reliability, accuracy any combo of the above etc. etc.

    Also would like clarification on any issues with feeding and or reliability with the 200 grain FP (flat point) and or TC (truncated cone) bullets especially in the XD45 tac and clarification as to whether FP and TC are just different names for the same bullet or if their is in fact any differences and what they may be.

    Thanks again,
    Don
     
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    Sport45 XDTalk 100 Member

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    I load 230gr FMJ or 230rg LRN over a mid-range charge of Unique, Universal, or 231.

    Why? Because I like seeing the center get chewed out of the target.

    Guns get dirty. I clean them when I want to and not a minute before...
     
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    I load 225gr truncated cones from Meister over Winchester 231 in Winchester or Remington Peters brass with Winchester large pistol primers. I shoot for 800 to 830 fps across either a Shooting Chrony or a Pact Pro Chronograph. This bullet has no lip or shoulder as do most semi-wadcutters--it's got a wide nose, a simple angled side from nose to body, a single lube groove and a wide generous straight-walled section for a nice shallow taper crimp.

    This load is reliable in my carry gun (Springfield Champion SS 1911) as well as my XD45 (4inch). Leading is light to moderate. Function is flawless in both guns as well as a Kimber or two, another Springfield 1911 and a Colt 1911. It meets (with 10 point safety factor) both the IPSC and IDPA major power factor requirements. Smoke and particulates are minimal. Muzzle flash is a small dull orange donut 12-15 inches in diameter visible only when ambient light is fully dark. Accuracy holds at about 2 inches @ 25 yards (from a rest).

    Particulars such as powder weight and cartridge OAL are withheld as you need to find your own match to your guns. With bulk buying and long loading sessions, the cost per cartridge is about 1/3 the best WWB 230gr FMJ prices for my area.
     
  10. DonXD40

    DonXD40 XDTalk 3K Member

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    There ya go. That's more what I was looking for, let's keep up the great info sharing.
     
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    I use precison bullets, poly coated 200 grn LRN over Universal powder and as far as primers, anything I can get at this point. I like the precision bullets, they are clean and fairly cheap if bought in large enough bulk. Universal works well in my 40, 45 and shotguns so I buy it in large bulk to reduce the hazmat shipping.
     
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    .45
    230gr. LRN
    4.2gr of red dot
    Winchester or CCI primers

    9mm
    125gr. lrn
    4.2gr of red dot
    Winchester or CCI primers
     
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    fltbed XDTalk 100 Member

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    When I started shooting USPSA I used the same H&G #68 200 gr. SWC bullet I used when I shot Bullseye but I was unsatisfied with the reliability. (even my prized customized Springfield 1911 would occasionally choke on them, but only during a match at the most inopportune times):confused:

    I then switch to a “ball” profile round nose 230 gr. for the reliability and the way the heaver bullet took down steel but I was dissatisfied with the accuracy at the 50 yard “standards” stage so prevalent back then.:(

    I then stumbled upon the 225 gr. FP bullet from MastercastHome Page in Enon valley Pa. very similar to the bullet jfdavis described. This bullet was almost as accurate as the old SWC’s I was shooting with the reliability of the round nose profile.:mrgreen:

    I currently use a Poly/Moly coated style of this bullet from Bear Creek for the reduced smoke.:cool:

    For powder I use Winchester Super Target because it’s as accurate as Bullseye (for me) but burns way cleaner.

    My current load is:
    Bear Creek 230 gr. FP Poly/Moly coated
    4.1 gr. WST
    OAL 1.200
    Brass: mixed
    Vel: 750 f.p.s.

    Hope this helps.

    Jeff
     
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    fredj338 XDTalk 10K Member

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    I've loaded many powders in the 45acp & the best to date is WST. Burns clean, great accuracy w/ lead or plated or jacketd. The recoil is softer than equiv. vel. loads using other powders. Primers, anything you can get. Federal for finicky pistols w/ tuned actions that have light hammer falls. Cases, I use mixed w/ lead bullets, for jakcketed, delete RP brass form your loading. Bullets, I shoot so many diff. kinds, but a cast 200grLSWC was std. for all my 1911s. They feed poorly in the XD so now I am shooting commercial cast 200grLRNFP or 230grRNL or cast 200grLFP. The Berry's TC or FP feed great in the XD & any 1911. Accuracy is fine, just don;t over crimp plated bullets as accuracy suffers.
    Just for Tard & JSG, I do NOT like TG or Clays for newb reloaders. TG occupies too little space in the large 45acp case & I have gotten wierd pressure spikes using CLays in anything but mousefart loads. If you want cheap, accurate & clean, it's WST. If you want to push max loads, it's Unive. or WSF, but Unique works too, just dirtier.
     
  15. dannyg0811

    dannyg0811 XDTalk 500 Member

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    I have a XD 45 Tactical with tungsten guide rod, the extra weight helps. Also an extended mag release, nothing else.

    For indoor range shooting I use 230 grain RN Rainer, outdoor 230 grain LRN. I also use WST, Winchester Super Target, 4.5 grains. I tried Clays but it was dirtier and seemed to give the gun more kick. Its a bit odd since what I have read says that faster burning powders at lower chargers is supposed to produce less recoil. I tried a few others but WST is what works best for me. For primers I prefer Winchester LP. Mainly Starline brass with others mixed in.

    I use RN bullets for reliability. I used Precision Bullets in 200 RNF and 230 RNF, both were reliable and had no issues.

    Here is an interesting article on Powders.
    How To Use A Burn-Rate Chart
    By Lane Pearce
    Shooting Times

    Heres another, I know its about 38 super but the same principles should apply. Recoil

    Relative Burn Rate
    Listed From Fastest to Slowest
    1. Norma R1
    2. Winchester WAALite
    3. VihtaVuori N310
    4. Alliant e3
    5. Hodgdon Titewad
    6. Alliant Red Dot
    7. Hodgdon Clays
    8. IMR Hi-Skor 700-X
    9. Alliant Bullseye
    10. Hodgdon Titegroup
    11. Alliant American Select
    12. Accurate Arms Solo 1000
    13. Alliant Green Dot
    14. IMR Trial Boss
    15. Winchester Super Handicap
    16. Hodgdon International
    17. IMR PB
    18. VihtaVuori N320
    19. Winchester WST
    20. Accurate Arms No. 2
    21. IMR SR7625
    22. Hodgdon HP-38
    23. Winchester 231
    24. Alliant 20/28
    25. Alliant Unique
    26. Hodgdon Universal
    27. Alliant Power Pistol
    28. VihtaVuori N330
    29. Alliant Herco
    30. Winchester WSF
    31. VihtaVuori N340
    32. IMR Hi-Skor 800-X
    33. IMR SR4756
    34. Accurate Arms No. 5
    35. Hodgdon HS-6
    36. VihtaVuori 3N37
    37. VihtaVuori N350
    38. Hodgdon HS-7
    39. VihtaVuori 3N38
    40. Alliant Blue Dot
    41. Accurate Arms No. 7
    42. Hodgdon Longshot
    43. Alliant 410
    44. Alliant 2400
    45. Accurate Arms No. 9
    46. Norma R123
    47. VihtaVuori N110
    48. Hodgdon Lil’Gun
    49. Hodgdon H110
    50. Winchester 296
    51. IMR IMR-4227
    52. Hodgdon H4227
    53. IMR SR4759
    54. Accurate Arms 1680
    55. Norma 200
    56. Alliant Reloder 7
    57. IMR IMR-4198
    58. Hodgdon H4198
    59. VihtaVuori N120
    60. Hodgdon H322
    61. Accurate Arms 2015BR
    62. VihtaVuori N130
    63. IMR IMR-3031
    64. VihtaVuori N133
    65. Hodgdon Benchmark
    66. Hodgdon H335
    67. Accurate Arms 2230
    68. Accurate Arms 2460
    69. Hodgdon H4895
    70. VihtaVuori N530
    71. IMR IMR-4895
    72. VihtaVuori N135
    73. Alliant Reloder 12
    74. IMR IMR-4320
    75. Accurate Arms 2495BR
    76. IMR IMR-4064
    77. Norma 202
    78. Accurate Arms 2520
    79. Alliant Reloder 15
    80. VihtaVuori N140
    81. Hodgdon Varget
    82. Winchester 748
    83. Hodgdon BL-C(2)
    84. Hodgdon H380
    85. IMR IMR-4007SSC
    86. VihtaVuori N540
    87. Winchester 760
    88. Hodgdon H414
    89. VihtaVuori N150
    90. Accurate Arms 2700
    91. IMR IMR-4350
    92. Hodgdon H4350
    93. Accurate Arms 4350
    94. Norma 204
    95. Hodgdon Hybrid 100V
    96. VihtaVuori N550
    97. Alliant Reloder 19
    98. IMR IMR-4831
    99. Accurate Arms 3100
    100. VihtaVuori N160
    101. Hodgdon H4831 & H4831SC
    102. Winchester Supreme 780
    103. Norma MRP
    104. Alliant Reloder 22
    105. VihtaVuori N560
    106. VihtaVuori N165
    107. IMR IMR-7828
    108. VihtaVuori N170
    109. Hodgdon H1000
    110. Hodgdon Retumbo
    111. VihtaVuori N570
    112. Accurate Arms 8700
    113. Hodgdon H870
    114. VihtaVuori 24N41
    115. Hodgdon H50BMG
    116. Hodgdon US869
    117. VihtaVuori 20N29

     

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