Best Light or Light/Laser for your $$$.

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  1. dplais84

    dplais84 XDTalk 100 Member

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    I've been doing a good bit of shopping looking for the right setup for my XDm 3.8 9c. I am at a crossroad just trying to make the right purchases.

    Post up your opinions, comments, concerns, and pictures about what light you have or want to buy. Please help me and others sort through the many different tac lights available. And your holster you have for your gun and light.

    So far I have narrowed my search down to:

    Viridian C5L (Awesome light/laser, but big buck$$$)
    Viridian C5L Gun Laser Sights | Viridian Green Laser Gun Sights

    Streamlight TLR 2 (another quality light/laser, but I think if I was going with the combo I would rather a green laser like C5L)
    Tactical Gun Mount Series - TLR-2® with Laser Sight | Streamlight

    Streamlight TLR 1 (I have been leaning toward this one, I just don't know if a laser is worth all that extra $$$)
    Tactical Gun Mount Series - TLR-1® | Streamlight

    So these are the lights I am looking at. Also, for the TLR 1, should I go with the TLR 1s (strobe) or just the TLR 1 (without strobe)? Is strobe a great feature to have? Is a laser worth the extra ca$h?

    Let's hear it guys, what is your favorite light or light/laser. Doesn't have to be one of the one's mentioned above. Post your pics.

    Thanks
     
  2. Bonehead

    Bonehead XDTalk 15K Member

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    I dont see the need to put a laser on it. I look at it this way.

    if you put a tac light on a handgun such as the XD rail mount, the tac light will put the beam out far enough and bright enough to light up your target.

    within a certain range, as most handguns will be used for self defense and within 20 feet (i think) the tac light will make a circle on the target and you will be hitting somewhere in the circle. built in combat accuracy? < maybe?

    any other time I think iron sights would be good. ya know?


    http://www.opticsplanet.net/firefield-tactical-pistol-flashlight-120-lumens.html
    ^ this is the one I have. not that big of a deal but the switch is awkward and doesn't like holsters. its almost impossible to holster and have it remain "off".
     
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    I love my Streamlight TLR-1. I'm a cheap A$$ and hate spending money on stuff like a flash light. But so happy I spent the cash on this light. I use it all the time, whether or not its mounted on my weapons.
     
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    The best light I own is my SurefireX300. I also like my Insight WX150, but the Surefire is a better light, IMHO.

    I don't own a laser; after owning a pair of CT grips, I don't see how they provide anything that practice won't provide.
     
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    geez those lights are expensive!
     
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    Surefire X300. It always works. :cool:
     
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    I grabbed this one on sale for $29.99 (reg $49) a few months ago when I was making an order for other stuff so shipping did not add anymore for the light. Thought worth a try for $29.

    Phase Illumination Weaponlight White LED with batteries fits Picatinny and Glock Rails

    Obviously it is not the same as expensive SureFire or Sreamlight, but your OP title said best for $$$, and this could be it. Seems solid, have put several dozen rounds over it with no bad signs. I'm no expert on gun lights, but two things I like on this one: simple positive engage to the rail, and simple switch just a little side to side slide that falls right where my trigger finger indexes along the frame
     
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    would this fit xdm?
     
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    I'm interested in this as well. I'm about 4 months out from purchasing my XD, but I'd like to know what other accessories, in this case lighting, would be best. Whats good for an XD 9mm service/tactical size?
     
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    Get a hand held light and learn how to use it correctly. Can be used for other apps and is better for HD. Spend the money saved on ammo and practice.
     
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    CdnInAz XDTalk 3K Member

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    the Phase Illumination fits my XD very well, so I think should fit your XDm, I think rails are same standard specification
     
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    Yep, couldn't agree more. Save the attached lights for the long guns.
     
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    I'm comfortable with a hand-held light. I can shoot with or without it. To be honest I really don't need the light myself.

    My XD is going to be mainly used for home defense. It's going to sit in my night stand until needed or taken to the range. My issue is I'm not the only person who may end up using it. There are other people in the house who, god forbid, may very well be forced to pick it up in the middle of the night and point it down range. They can shoot, maybe not the best shooters, but they can shoot. However they aren't trained to use a hand held light and the last thing I want them doing is fumbling around with a flash light with a gun in their hand and a perp down the hall.

    Just looking for a good light I can attach to the rail when the XD sits at home.
     
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    Forrest2b XDTalk Newbie

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    If you're a fan of those and want to save money, get the SC-GL-MIR. It's the Chinese build, same parts. Laser, strobe, 4 batteries included. Ended up getting one from flashlightsngear.com

    SC-GL-MIL Tactical LED Light/Laser Combo (Green Laser)

    They have a 10% off coupon running now: CPF2011. Quick shipping too.
     
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    dplais84 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Thank you all so much for your suggestions!!! All great stuff, i'll let ya'll know what I decide.
     
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    I have the Streamlight TLR-2, the SC-Gl-MIL Tactical Green Laser/Light, and the Viridian. They all work great, best deal, money wise is the SC-GI-MIL. My favorite is the Viridian and it came with a holster. Just make sure you get the green laser. You can use it in the daytime.
     
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    dplais84 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Thanks for all your help. I got the SC-Gl-MIL Tactical Green Laser/Light it's pretty much the same as the TLR-2 but just cheaper.

    Now my new question is: What about a holster for the gun with light? Also I want to make sure that the holster will still hold gun if light is not attached. Thanks again!!
     
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    +1 for the TLR-2. I would have probably gone for the Chinese remake but found a Streamlight local on craigslist for a great deal. Light is bright as hell, that's for sure.
     
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    I would disagree with a hand held light in one hand and your pistol in the other.

    unless you have 3 or 4 arms/hands.

    lets say you need to open a door. you need a free hand and don't want to fumble with it because your hands are full. you go clunking around all clumsy with your handheld flashlight it could be bad.

    you wake up and need your weapon. you grab it and then you fumble your flashlight in the dark. you hear someone in your hallway where your daughters room is. do you wanna take the extra time to fish it out from under your bed? do you go with no light? is it an intruder or your daughter that needed to get a drink?


    suppose you catch someone and need to call the police. I can think of tons of scenarios where having it mounted would be better.
     
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    Best for the money?

    Tactical Compact Pistol Rail Red Laser Sight Weaver Gun | eBay

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    I have this one or one just like it and it has not failed at all. For 20 bucks, it can be relegated to dry fire trigger control practice. But it actually has held up well to 5-600 rounds of 180gr .40s&w on the range.

    Now, I did "improve it" so the un-modified version may not be as good. I slid the electronics cover (under the cross screw) open and filled that area with Permatex RTV 1 minute gasket material. Closed the lid, installed it on the gun and immediately set the zero. I aimed at a 20 yard object with the iron sights and moved the beam until they both were aligned. I've found the cheap airsoft quality lasers have basically the same laser tubes and electronics as the higher dollar units, its the switches, alignment adjustment and ability to hold zero that makes them either crappy or good. The RTV holds the laser tube alignment yet still has some give so the shocks of recoil don't harm it. Can't do anything about the switch.

    Oh that reminds me. Look at the picture. See those 2 small screws? NEVER, and I repeat NEVER, take them out. They hold the extremely simple switch mechanism. It's 2 springs and 2 ball bearings under spring tension. If you take out the screws, the springs will launch the ball bearings. They are REALLY small and hard to locate!! Plus, they are one holy bee itch to replace.

    That's about the "best" for the least money. Now if you are looking for something to depend on for self defense or for a carry gun -- move up to real equipment. Surefire is about the best, it costs real money but you can really bet your life on it working when you need it! I'm a cheap B----d, but some things are too important to cheap out on.
     

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