Bear protection .40 or .45?

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    Yoopermike

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    Odd question and I do know that these are not ideal calibers for the job. Out of a .40 or .45 what would be better for black bear protection ( if needed) and fmj for penetration or a good hollow point? I know the .45 is bigger but it does not have the penetration of the .40. Ideally id rather a 44 mag pistol but that is just not in my inventory atm.

     
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    matlt

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    I'd go with the velocity of the .40, and higher capacity. Obviously it's underpowered, but in either situation you'd be emptying the magazine and hope it scares them away.
     
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    I forget the maker, but have seen them @ cabelas, its a blue and yellow box, with a styro container I side for the bullets.

    They might even say bear on the box.

    Anyway, they have a 300gr round in .45 with some really big energy.

    They should also be available in .40

    I would think the heaviest fastest round you can find :)

    Hopefully someone will chime in with better info.

    Are you going to bear country?

    If you are going once, for a trip, I see your point, if you are moving to bear county, save the money and get a .44 asap
     
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    SDMark

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    I hope it's the .45 fmj because that's what I have. I know neither is any good at range, so my plan has always been to stand my ground knowing I'm going to get hurt. Then, when it's just outside of arms length, see if I can remove it's mouth. Of course, I'm going to fire a couple of shots in it's general direction first (if there's time) to see if the noise itself does the trick.
     
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    Yoopermike

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    I live in the upper penn of Michigan, I was out hunting with my .22 in hand and .45 on my side, when I looked down to see a big pile of bear skat! I then questioned if my .45 would have been enough or should I have grabbed my .40 with more rnd cap and more penetration. I got a bit nervous even though the black bear around here are somewhat small and usually run away when you make some kind of noise, I still felt a bit un easy and all this was no more than 50 yds er so from my house. If I had my .44 lever gun with me I wouldn't have been as nervous but I was hunting small game and didnt want to be slinging a 2nd long gun over my shoulder.
     
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    Yoopermike

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    Thats what I was thinking but wasnt quite sold on the idea.
     
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    I am thinking its a good excuse to get a wheelgun asap....see if you can get one that shoots the same caliber as your lever gun as well as something with more boom
     
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    That sounds like Buffalo Bore, and at 300 grains, it's probably for a 45 Colt ;)
     
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    ArmyGuy45

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    This is my anti-bear gun.
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    So you might want to go bigger!
     

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