Be wary of Gen4 Glocks

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  1. atmiller

    atmiller XDTalk 1K Member

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    They are having a lot of problems with a Gen 4 Glock Endurance Test over at pistol-training.com. Five stoppages with barely 500 rounds thru the gun.

    The previous test was done with a HK45. Only 3 stoppages in 50,000 rounds.
     
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    Are they ony testing 1 gun or do they have several randomly purchased units?
    I wouldn't make a generalized opinion based on one unit.
     
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    THey have been having wide spread issues with the Gen4s. Generalization is out the window i'm afraid. That said, I love the looks of the new Glock. If they can fix the issues people are having and experience the same level of consistent quality that the Gen3s have I would want one... Bad.
     
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    I'm considering a Gen 4 G26 or 27. Would you recommend holding off for a bit?

    Leaning towards the G27...
     
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    Hasn't this been a spring issue? I know that was a problem with the Gen 4's but is this an entirely new problem or what?
     
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    Same. The Gen 3 seems to be much more reliable but the Gen 4 has a better grip and adjustable back straps. I'm sure Glock will get it worked out eventually, they always do.


    These stovepipes and FTE's are a result of the spring issue.
     
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    As far as I know the spring is the same in these smaller guns, so the only thing that changes is the grip which should not affect reliability. The compact and larger Glocks are having some issues because of the new captive recoil spring.
     
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    And I think the 26 and 27 already had captive springs? I could be wrong. I want a Gen4 19 but that is the one with all the problems.
     
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    I recently researched Gen4s as well.
    Found info mainly on the weak casing ejection.
     
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    I really like the way the Gen4 feels but I just picked up a Gen3 19 EXO at the right price. For the price difference and parts I would buy a Gen 3 again. But the Gen4 does feel good in the hand, well with no back-strap on it so in SF form.
     
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    The 9mm gen4 are having problems because they designed the spring to work with .40 as well as 9mm. If you shoot 124gr or higher 9mm it shouldn't be an issue. And it's only really an issue with the 19, maybe 17. Subcompacts aren't effected. It is the new recoil spring system, they will replace it if it doesn't work for you free of charge as well.
     
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    This is odd, I was running my best friend gen4 glock 19 last week at the range, and we did not had a single problem. It ate up all the blazer, pmc, and WWB without a hiccup. Between me and him that day, we went through 400 rounds in the gen4, and it ran flawless. I had my OD xdm 9mm that day too, it was doing great, like always:D with the same ammo. In addition, I do have a OD gen3 glock 19 w/ trigger job, which has over 3000 rounds through it, and I do not feel or see any difference in recoil of the spring, comparing the new or the old. The only different is the size and texture of the grips, other than that, I don't understand why these folks are having problems with their glocks.
     
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    My Gen4 G19 has been fine.
     
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    The only issue I have heard about is the captive recoil springs in the Glock 9mm full size. They designed this size, first, in 40 then adapted it to the 9mm. The spring runs great with the 40 but the spring is too stiff for the 9mm.

    This is what happens when a company has a proven design that works fine and they go "messing" with it. Glock was trying to lessen the recoil on the G22/G17 platform, when I don't feel it was THAT harsh to begin with. Certainly NOT worth risking the great reliability of the G22.G17 pistols in the process. This is a move more typical of a gun maker like SIG than Glock...but oh well.

    You probably will not experience these stoppages with the smaller Glocks in the 19/23 or 26/27 class, as they did not get this new recoil spring set up.

    If I was going to buy another G 17 (been trying to kill a 2nd gen G17 since 1994) then I would seek out a nice Gen 3 G17 and have a grip mod done.

    ...or...wait until Lone Wolf puts out their replacement spring set up for the Gen4 G17s.

    - brickboy240
     
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    I love my gen4 G19, no problems so far and I've got the number to get the free recoil spring upgrade should it be needed. Now if only I could find an OD G19...
     
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    My Glock 22 Gen 4 has worked flawlessly, not a single issue
     
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    The problems with the Gen 4 9mm Glocks are real. I'm seeing all kinds of prblems with them at the range. I just recently picked up a new G19. After what I was seeing at the range I just bought a GEN 3. Works perfect. The G19 with the smallest grip strap does fell better in my hand. But the triggers aren't as nice as the GEN 3's. The recoil set up often won't cycle cheap practice ammo. The GEN 3 cycles everything. The new extractor often throw brass back at your head. The should have just ofered th grip straps as and option and left the rest alone. SOme are saying the new recoil assemblies are solving the problems. I'll just stick with my G19 GEN 3.
     
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    but its only 9mm glocks, the rest of the calibers are fine and glock will fix anything for free....so really its not an issue? and its not like every gun has the problem.
     
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    Not an issue? what about the people that are carrying these guns and stake their lives on them?
     
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    I haven't had a problem with my gen 4 Glock 22, 23, or 27. They are all great guns.
     

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