All metal 9mm

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  1. jfoh56

    jfoh56 XDTalk 100 Member

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    Did Smith & Wesson ever made any all-metal 9mm? What other 9mm were made in all metal / steel frame?

    Doing a research so I can go back on Monday to argue with my local gunsmith! Your input are more than welcome!


    your sincere student -:rolleyes:
     
  2. BENDAVIS

    BENDAVIS XDTalk 100 Member

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    browning hi power???
     
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    bashman XDTalk 1K Member

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    I think just about every Smith semi-auto made before the M&P was all metal.
    Look at the 39 (1st Gen), the 469 (2nd Gen) and the 3XXX and 6XXX series (3rd Gen) for starters.
     
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    H&K P7?

    CZ-75 (& clones)?

    Star B/BM?

    Stainless framed Beretta 92's?

    Not sure about S&W's...but don't 6-series have stainless frames?
     
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    Isn't the 5906 all stainless? I beleive it is. The 5903 is stainless slide with an alloy frame and the 5906 is the same size but with a steel frame. Both 4 inch barreled 15 round 9mms.

    So yeah...they made an all steel 9mm...all stainless...but all steel! LOL

    Heres the info:
    Smith & Wesson Model 5906 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    - brickboy240
     
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    yocan XDTalk 10K Member Founding Member

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    heres the link with most of them listed (I went off of brickboy) Smith & Wesson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I almost bought a 5059 at Christmas, supposedly great guns, just a pain to strip apart.

    A lot of huge police agencies still use the steel framed ones, a lot of medium sized frames are still around for bugs as well. NY NY still had them when I saw the cops there over Christmas.
     
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    The 5906 Smith 9mm was once a very common police issued pistol. In the late 80s - early 90s, it was king until the Glocks came along. It was the main pistol that brought many police out of the revolver era and into the "wondernines."

    I see many nice lightly used 5906s and 5903s on the used market at very good prices. They're a tad heavy (the 5906) but decent shooters.

    - brickboy240
     
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    I used to own an all-metal Firestar 9mm.

    Prior to Glocks becoming popular, virtually every handgun by every manufacturer was all-metal, and plenty of them were 9's.

    Is the fellow you're arguing with asserting something to the contrary?
     
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    my dad has had 2 cop turn in 59' series SW 9mm since the early 80s.

    I think 5906, one might be a 5903.

    Smith & Wesson Automatic Model 5903/5904/5906/5946

    [SIZE=+2]Smith & Wesson Automatic Model 5903/5904/5906/5946:[/SIZE] These are the standard sized 9 mm handguns in Smith & Wessons inventory. They have been adopted by several police agencies, including the LAPD. The main differences between the guns is that the 5906 is a double action all stainless steel gun, the 5903 and the 5904 have a alloy frame which lowers the weight to 28.5 oz., the 5946 is a double action only gun, and the 5904 has a blued finish. All of these guns are of good quality and manufacture.
    All of these guns use the same fifteen round magazine.
    Weight: 2.4 lbs (1.09 kg) / 1.8 lbs. (.82 kg)
    Caliber: 9 mm
    Barrel: 4 inch (10 cm)
    Action: Double Action / Double Action Only
    Range: 165 ft (50 m)
    Payload: 15 + 1
    Cost: $ 700
    Made in: USA
    Special: Good quality and finish, all stainless steel manufacture. Several options available, incluiding adjustable sights.
     
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    in regards to the other all metal 9mm most of the sig alone has a tone of all metal 9mm's

    Check out the berretta 92, and the Sig p226 for some sweet shooting, time tested all metal 9mm's
     
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    The Hi-Power and CZ-75 are probably two of the best all steel 9mms ever made.

    - brickboy240
     
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    +1 for Hi-powers then I'd say (225 being single stack is innately more simple and reliable) sig then czs
     
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    The CZ-75 is all STEEL . Then there is the steel/alloy guns like Sig and Beretta . I have 2 CZ's and they are great !
     
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    rofl...if he didn't think Smith and Wesson made an all metal 9mm...I'd find a new gunsmith.

    hell, my dad's had a model 59 for a LONG time...
     
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    P08, P38, 1991a1, Tanfoglio/Witness, CZ-75, GP35, Astra 400/600, Star A, B, BM, S, Firestar, firestar plus, Akaba/Helwan, Beretta 92, S&W 5906, Ruger, IMI Jericho...there are a bunch of them.
     
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    I am now educated thanks to your generosity!

    The local smith insisted on that S&W never had a full metal 9mm, they only made them for larger calibers. He was also telling other people that most people switched from revolver to polymer in the 90's and the S&W was trying to catch up and that's why they had the metal semi-autos.;)

    My guess is that he's around 25 (only a few year elder of me)...oh well. He was a small arm repair specialist in the army for 5 years or so.
     
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    xd fan in mn XDTalk 100 Member

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    walther p38, p4 and p5 as well. i owned a p4 and loved it.
     
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    I just sold my S&W 6904 a few weeks ago, that was an all metal 9mm. Real nice shooter, but I got tired of not being able to find 9mm at the local stores so I decided to let it go.
     
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    Is he working as a smith based on his army experience, or has he sought training outside of that? I've never seen any gunsmithing course where you wouldn't learn about S&W products as a part of the curriculum. The model 39 was a pretty big leap for a U.S. manufacturer, and it's high capacity brother model 59 is the base for almost all of S&W's auto pistols made since except for the M&P series.

    Here are their current offerings:
    Category - Metal Frame

    On a side note, the switch from revolvers to DA/SA or DAO pistols really started in the 80's. By the 90's Glocks, Berettas, and S&W autos were in the holsters of almost all the police agencies in the country.
     
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    S&W makes the 908, which is a newer model of the 3913/3914 (discontinued, and I'm lucky to have one :lol:). The 3913/3914's have more metal internal parts. These are the few that I know of, I'm sure there are plenty more.
     

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