9mm bullet choice for SD Poll

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What is your 9mm Bullet Weight of choice for Self Defense

  1. 115gr

  2. 124gr

  3. 147gr

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  1. AaronXDM9

    AaronXDM9 XDTalk Newbie

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    I'm trying to decide what grain round would best suit me in 9mm for my new xdm9. I have some 115gr Hornady Critical Defense rounds, however I'm going to get some Federal HST's in either 124gr +P or 147gr +P. I'm interested to see what the majority of people use for self defense in the 9mm.

    Thank you for your vote and input.

    Aaron
     
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    Not that I'd know from experience on a human being, and I pray to God I will never know, but with an XDm's 19+1 capacity and a lot of practice, I think 124gr +P will be more than enough for HD. Since I'd probably carry a SC for SD, I wouldn't get 19+1, but I don't imagine myself in a major gun war for SD...Speer Gold Dot JHP 124g +P should be fine, right?
     
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    get both and see what you shoot better i went with the 124grn+P HST's cuz thats what i shoot best i tried 147grn Rem GS 124grn+P Rem GS 147grn WWB JHP Fed 124grn+P HST's
     
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    The more important question should be which shoots better in your gun. Not all ammo shoots POA. What shoots fine for me may not shoot fine for you.
     
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  5. AaronXDM9

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    I fired some 115gr fmj and some old federal 135gr hp (1050fps). The 135gr and the 115gr were pretty much dead on with the heavier being just about perfect for my POA. I think either the 124gr or 147gr will be pretty much right on POA. I like the velocity numbers the 124gr +P puts up. However I'm not sure if there would be more expansion from a 147gr in a good hollow point or simply deeper pentration. Number are nice to think about but I think penetration and expansion count a little more than simply the numbers.
     
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    Speer Gold Dot 9mm 124g +P hits at about 324 FP at 50yds.

    Speer Ammo - Ballistics Tables

    I'm now looking into

    Hornady 9MM LUGER 115 GR FTX CRITICAL DEFENSE

    They are supposed to penetrate clothing well and expand consistently.
     
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    agalindo XDTalk 15K Member Founding Member

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    115gr are too light and will underpenetrate.
     
  8. AaronXDM9

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    I currently have a box of 115gr FTX Critical defense rounds. Not much data out there on these yet and the *only* reason I purchased them was b/c that's all the shop had left when I bought my last 9mm. I just couldn't go home not having anything to stuff in it.

    I really hope to get some HST's tomorrow....:mrgreen:
     
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    where u getting the HST's from
     
  10. AaronXDM9

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    I will have to do some looking around. I've had a hard time finding any quality hp ammo lately.

    After looking more at what double tap has to offer I think I"m just going to order from them. How many rounds you get for such high quality ammo seems to be a better deal than purchasing 20rnds of hst at a local store.

    The 9mm +P 124gr Double Tap offers is just short of meeting the speed of the .357sig...

    Caliber : 9mm+P

    Bullet : Speer Gold Dot JHP

    Ballistics : 124gr @ 1310fps / 473ft. lbs. from a G17.
    124gr @ 1295fps / 462 ft. lbs. from a G19

    Caliber : 9mm+P

    Bullet : Speer Gold Dot JHP

    Ballistics : 147gr @ 1135fps / 421ft. lbs. from a G17.
    Glock 19 velocity - 1120fps.
     
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    According?

    I carry HiShock 115gr +p+
     
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    Have you chronoed the doubletap rounds. Double has been known to published ammo vels that are quite a bit more than what you'll actually get. Also remeber that the gold dots they load are desinged to expand within a given velocity window and if pushed beyond that window you get the bullet over expanding and the petals curling back too much thus making the expanded diamter smaller. Velocity and foot pounds mean nothing, what's important is expanion and penetration that's what wounds. The larger the bullet expands and more it penetrates the more tissue damage and bleeding thus the sooner the theat stops.
     
  13. AaronXDM9

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    You bring a valid point to the discussion. I wonder if the claimed higher velocities of the doubletap ammo would cause over expansion? I've read the reviews and people that have tested the rounds seem to be pleased...whatever that's worth...
     
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    my XD9 svc keeps both 147gr Federal and 124gr +p+ in it---I'd recommend the +p+ in a SC because it'll propel the round faster out of the shorter barrel. in a 4" gun, 147gr will get enough velocity. just lately though, haven't been able to find 147gr, so I've switched to the 124gr +p+.
     
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    Ask any good ballistics expert, or read any research done and they all say the same 115gr are too light and will under penetrate. They are not a good choice for SD. Doesn't matter that they are +p+.
     

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