9 mm parabellum vs. lugar

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  1. hightower

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    9 mm parabellum and 9 mm lugar are the same round right? If not, which round does the xd shoot? Is there any other type of 9 mm round that is different from these two??
     
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    Yes, either, yes.
     
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    there is absolutly no difference
     
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    Didn't we cover this a couple of months ago? Maybe someone should make a caliber equivalency sticky in the FAQs.
     
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    thanks for replying...sorry I should have searched the topic...thought it was unique =)
     
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    Reloading manuals are a great resource for these questions. They are cheap enough to have one on hand even you you never reload, even cheaper at a used book store. They usually have some history of the cartridge.
    But for this limited question: 9mm Luger = 9mm Parabellum = 9x19mm = 9mm ammo. Just different name for the same thing. If someone says 9mm in this day they mean these rounds. If they are talking about something else they should be saying the additional information.

    The XD shoots this round/cartidge/load.

    In case we missed it...welcome to the forum. I have been busy lately and not paying attention (but it's everyone's job, now it's your job. :D ).
     
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    I am in the market for an XD. It will be my first gun purchase, although I have shot guns quite a bit over the years. I know its been in the forum before but I want to specifically ask someone who owns BOTH the 9mm and .40 subcompact the following: Do you shoot more accurate with the 9mm? And is the 9mm noticibly more pleasant to shoot? And for my first buy which one should I go with? In the future I want to carry at times so I want the subcompact, but it will definately be a "toy" to go have fun with at the range, etc. thanks
     
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    Really it has to do with translations.
    "Luger" is German so it works better in German HKs and Austrian Sigs.
    "Parabellum" is Latin so it works better in latin based Romantic guns like Italian Berettas, Spanish Stars and Brazilian Tauras, etc...
    Because of the procsimity of Croatia to Italy its best to use Parabellums in the HS2000 and XDs.
     
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    hmm, I have shot the XD-9 SC but not the XD-40 SC. I have shot both the XD-9 Service and the XD-40 Service. In my opinion the 9 is both more accurate and gentler. I think the higher velocity adds to accuracy. I did not find the XD-9 SC to be as harsh as I expected in the recoil department, was actualy pleasant to shoot. The 40 may give you a bit of a flinch if you are a begginer shooter. I have had horrible experiences with Glock subcompacts, but that is another story. If you have to get a subcompact, get the 9mm in my opinion. My advice would be to forget this subcompact BS and just get a standard XD-9 4" service though. They are even more pleasant to shoot and the size difference between a SC and a 4" service is not enough to make it worth the time and money. But hey, its your dime, spend it as you like.
     
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    BS plain and simple. I know you were just joking. Especially as it was the Germans show named it 9x19mm Parabellum. My only problem is this:

    WHY CAN"T THE AMERICANS JOIN THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD AND CALL IT WHAT EVERY OTHER NATION DOES? 9MM PARABELLUM :roll:

    Must be something to do with the inability to understand metric and the need to use Windows. ARggghhhhh!
     
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    Well may I then....What happened? :oops:
     
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    Well, I'd have to say, it isn't about what shoots accurately. All the XDs do that, but what you are most comfortable with. I, myself, go with a 9mm because I have smallish hands and a .40 just isn't as comfortable in my hand as the 9mm. The recoil isn't an issue for either caliber for me.

    Bottom line: Buy what is the most comfortable. Doing that will increase your accuracy.
     
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    Which would make the 10mm=.40 Magnum. I keep sayin' it, but nobody listens :lol:
     
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    Yeap, I prefer the base 16 system (hexadecimal for all you Europeans in the audience) since I am an electrical engineer! :D

    Just like women in the military, Why fix something that isn't broken?
     
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    I think the only other 9mm you might run into is on a gun that was made outside of the United States. On a German gun, you might find one chambered in 9mm Kurtz. if it's an Italian-made gun, it may be referred to as the 9mm Corto. Both are names for the .380 ACP. I believe it has also been known as the 9mm Browning Short.

    For simplicity though, anyone referring to a "9mm" is probably talking about the standard round, whether you call it the Luger or Parabellum. It's what the XD-9 shoots.

    As an aside, I know there's a 9mm Largo, but I've never personally seen a gun chambered in it.

    Post #2, Woo Hoo! Hope it helps.
     
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    Who keeps the metric system down??

    The Stone Cutters!
     
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    Ahh, that's a great number 8) !
     
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    Indeed. Now....quick: How many ounces in a gallon?

    (liquid ounces as opposed to ounces of weight of course).


    As my dad used to say...."If God had intended us to use the metric system, He would have given us ten fingers".

    Peace,
    D.
     

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