.460 Rowland conversion

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  1. Nephalem16

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    Anybody know about the ballistics, and uses of this caliber? Where do I buy a conversion kit? Thanks in advance for any advise.
     
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    Interesting. This is the first I am hearing about it myself. I believe they make .50 conversions for the Glock 21. I had no idea there was a .460 Rowland(?) for the XD .45. I can honestly say I have never heard of that caliber. But, now you have my curiousity piqued.
     
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    Yes I am also in the research phase. It has a small following and I was wondering the purpose of it. If I find out I'll let you know.
     
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    Yes it is a sweet caliber. It's purpose is to give you 44 mag (ish) like performance with an autolaoders' capacity and handiness.
     
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    So it would be good for hunting then.
     
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    So is the .45 Super without all the upgrade hassle.
     
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    The only .460 Rowland I have ever seen was a Ruger Alaskan. Never seen ammo for it.

    I am not familiar with the .45 super. Can it be fired in a XD-45 or G30/G21? Does it require a conversion barrel or special mags?
     
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    The .45 Super is dimensionally the same as the ACP, but the brass is strengthened in critical areas to handle the added pressures. The only thing that you might change out, is going to a stronger recoil spring and maybe a stiffer mag spring. Every thing else remains the same.
     
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    There was a thread on here about this a few months ago, but I can't find it. Something about "mom's bear gun"!
     
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    Looks like if you have a 1911, you're in business, however......
     
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    Well, after discovering high capacity .45's I haven't really looked at a 1911 framed .45 in sometime. I am not sure, I would want to go out and get one, just to turn around and then covert it again. Also, I wonder how hard it is to obtain .460 Rowland rounds? I know my honking huge .454 casul revolver has plenty of rounds available. They are expensive, but plentiful.
     
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    Not too plentiful.

    Cor-Bon Hunter Ammunition 460 Rowland 255 Grain Bonded Core Box of 20 - MidwayUSA
     
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    There is an XD conversion available...the source was listed in the other thread referenced above. It doesn't seem to be possible to do in a Glock, which isn't really surprising given the design of that pistol family.

    From what I can see, .45 Super and .460 Rowland are essentially the same thing? A case with .45ACP exterior dimensions, but strengthened and running a hotter powder charge?
     
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    Close enough that I feel that it's not worth the cost of conversion.
     
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    I am sorely tempted to get the conversion for the XD45. Looks basically stock, but will stop a bear.
     
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    Interesting. However, I think I will stick to .45 ACP and use my .454 casul for bear stoping, or my .338 win mag, or my 12 guage with Berneke Black Magic slugs. I just see too much going wrong trying to turn my XD .45 into a .460 Rowland.
     
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    I've read thru several other posts about the 460 Conversion kit. It's on one of my "Want to get that someday" lists.

    Here's a gun blog write up:

    .460 Rowland conversion kit for Springfield XD | The Firearm Blog

    And the 460rowland.com item for the Springfield XD 45 Tactical:

    Springfield Armory XD-45 to .460 Rowland Conversion Kit

    From what I've read, the conversion works just fine. The only caveat is that it only works in the 45 Tactical 5" frame.

    And I made this up awhile ago. Just for grins:

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    I think you all had better watch the videos in the link before deciding what it is like. They are impressive results to say the least and I don't think 45super is going to mimic them.
     

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