380 ACP vs 9mm

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  1. NoisyCricket

    NoisyCricket XDTalk 100 Member

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    Hey I'm fairly new on here so I hope I'm posting this in the right place. My delima is this, my wife has a steel framed 9mm and she can handle the recoil fairly well. we recently got our CHL's and she purchased a ruger LCR in .38spc she absolutely loves it but doesn't want to practice with it because it hurts her hand to shoot it. I would buy her a compact 9mm but I'm pretty sure she'd have the same problem. I know that a .380ACP doesn't have to power of the 9x19mm but I'd rather see her carry something small than nothing. my question is how does the felt recoil of a small .380 like the Sig P238 or ruger LCP compare to her .38spc revolver or her DP51 9mm.
     
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    Id put the .380 at a little bit shooting than the 9mm. But the .380 is just about DOUBLE the price of 9mm ammo and I doubt youd notice too much in the way of recoil between the 2. Id say a 9mm is quite a bit less recoil than a 38 spl. (depending on gun platform)
    not to mention that even a compact .380 can have a considerable amount of recoil ie.. the smaller and the less weight the gun is, the more its gonna recoil. ID say an xd,xdm. or even an s&w m&p compact in 9mm would be just the ticket.
    the ruger lcp is a single stack thin gun.. there not the most comfortable to shoot.
     
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    The small .380's (LCP, TCP, Keltec, etc.) have quite of bit of snap to them , so she may not like them. THe Bersa .380's and Walther PPK are a little larger and are nicer to shoot, though the ammo can be expensive as oppose to the 9mm.
    I'd take her out to the LGS and let her handle and if you can shoot some of the compacts availible. She may find a brand in 9mm she likes.
    My wife had to find the gun that fit her and what she wanted for herself.
     
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    I have a TCP .380 and my old lady will not shoot it because of the recoil. But, she will shoot 9's, .45's and .38's till the cows come home.
     
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    NoisyCricket XDTalk 100 Member

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    awesome thanks for the input on the snappy-ness of the smaller .380 guns I think I may look at something like the M&P shield or the XDs (when they release it in a 9mm) but ultimately will have to be her decision what feels best and what she likes. She almost bought a ruger LC9 when she got her LCR. She's also always liked the M&P compacts so that's another reason I was thinking I might see how she felt about the M&P shield
     
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    Fyi. I have a m&p shield.... my wife dont care for it!( its a bit snappy for her) again its a small single stack= quite a bit more snap/recoil than my full size or compact m&p those 2 my wife can shoot all day. go for the compact if she like them! you wont be sorry. They fit your hand like a glove and have a easy felt recoil.
    Id say the recoil in my shield is close to double my full size m&p.Both in 9mm.
     
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    Wife doesn't like practicing with her LCR for the same reason. Wished I could have talked her into the 357 version, the extra weight might have helped.

    I have a TCP 738 and a LC9. Wife hasn't had the chance to try either yet. In my experience, the LC9 actually does have less felt recoil than the smaller/lighter TCP. But the TCP is still definitely a marked improvement over the LCR. I just bought a Pachmayr grip for the TCP that should further reduce the recoil shock, but I have yet to range test it.

    I was just a Wally's today. The Federal was about $17.50/50 9mm rounds and $12/50 .380 rounds.
     
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    Use wadcutters in the revolver. Not +P semi wadcutters.
     
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    I had just been using cheap fmj (not using +p) are the wadcutters a lower recoil cartrige? I thought it was basically just a standard load but with a flat nosed bullet.
     
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    Try the Kahr cw9 its small and shoots great I love that gun.
     
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    revolvers hurt my hand, in that the trigger guard beats into my top grip finger, you won't have that issue in an auto, period. I can't imagine the recoil hurting any other way. A girl doesn't need an itty bitty gun, most women carry purses right? I would stick to a 9mm, and find something manageable.

    I personally love my walther P99c, very light and compact, very little recoil. XD9 subcompact, 9mm 3inch 1911, pps, lc9
     
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    She usually prefers the idea of carrying on body since a purse is often the target of an attack. she would like to be able to just forget about the purse and run without giving up her firearm.
     
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    My wife HAD the LCR 357 and handled it pretty well with non plus p .38 ammo. She's very petite, too. I traded it straight up for a CZ 75 Compact though. She has the MP9c now. I also had a P238 and it shot softer than the LCR. Very nice gun. The LCP will be at least as snappy as the LCR, probably worse. Check out the MP9c...great little gun.
     
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    Not to beat a dead horse with this .380 thing but has anyone had much experience with the walther pk380? looks like it would be decent as far as having a little more grip comfort dispersing the recoil? any thoughts?
     
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    Thanks we will definately look at those again to see how she feels about them.
     
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    It was fairly nice, I never owned one per say but my buddy owns a gun shop and I am in there fondling the pk380 all the time! Im always scared off from the price of ammo. I wish it were a 9mm!
     
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    What she shoots best is what she should use/carry. My wife loves the BG 380 auto. And she's very accurate with it! She is a small gal and has no problem with the recoil. I personally think the 380 recoil is over hyped. She has small hands and can get a perfect thumbs forward grip eliminating most of the flip. It's small, but it's what she is comfortable and good with, and that's most important to me. She looks forward to shooting it. No good to close eyes, and flinch from higher caliber recoil. Better to carry light than not at all. We are working on stepping up the caliber s-l-o-w-l-y. But, .380 is good for now. Again, it's what she is comfortable with, as she reminds me all the time. She could be terrified like alot of women, but the 380 makes it fun. And when she's happy, life's alot better :rolleyes:(sarcasm) ;)

    IMHO
     
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    She's a smart woman.
     
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    Since your wife loves the LCR I'd suggest the following:
    Get a heavy 357 such as a Ruger GP100 or a Smith 686, either in a 4 inch barrel. Do most of the range time with the heavier gun, and put in a smaller (but still put in range time) with the LCR. Carry the LCR and keep the heavier Revolver next to the nightstand. She keeps with the same style (Revolver) and griping/malfunction drills will be similar rather than shifting between pistol/revolver.

    In the end, let her figure out what she wants.
     
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    Not too likely the weight difference would have negated the .357's recoil, IMO. The .38 SPL LCR weighs 13.5 ounces while the .357 LCR weighs 17.1 ounces. Don't beat yourself up over it.
     

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