Discussion in 'Other Long Gun Talk' started by wolverine_17, Aug 18, 2012.
what do you use for deer and what do you use for elk?
I used the 180 for big Mule Deer and Elk I have used the 180 and the 220 load. Both worked well. The 180 is the sweet spot for the round IMO.
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I run a 150gr nosler ballistic tip through an M1 garand. 1 shot 1 kill for deer.
my vote would be 180 for an Elk, not that 150 would drop one just as well 99% of the time.
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150 is great for deer, never hunted elk but i would always err on the side of caution for elk or moose. Your name is wolverine, are you in MI? Did you get an elk tag or is this purely for a what if situation?
I load 165s for all my hunting. Bullet construction is more important than weight on heavier came like Elk, Moose, and Bears. I'm not saying to use a super light bullet, but 150s, 165s, and 180s, will all work and having a tough bullet is more important than the weight difference between these bullets.
I load 165 grain Remington Cor-Lokts for deer. They are inexpensive, average around 3/4 MOA out of my rifle, and kill deer like the hammer of Thor. Mule deer, whitetails, I've never had one take more than one rickity step after being shot with one. They create massive internal injuries in deer and are tough enough to blow through a shoulder. This last deer that I shot with one was absolutely flattened. There was nothing bigger than the size of a fifty cent piece left of this thing's heart and lungs. I shot, regained my sight picture, and saw a white belly and some dust where this buck had been standing seconds earlier. In my experience, they don't pass through on a good shot (high shoulder), transfer maximum energy, and drop deer in their tracks. Can't ask for better performance.
For Elk and Black Bears, I load 165 grain Nosler Partitions. They shoot about .80 MOA out of my rifle and are considerably tougher than Cor-Lokts. They are also considerably more expensive. They are also (in my experience) a bad choice for deer. A buddy of mine shot a Muley buck with a 165 Partition out of his '06 and the bullet passed through with almost zero expansion, leaving the heart and lungs mostly intact, and the deer had to be blood trailed after a 40 minute wait. It must have gone 400 yards after being shot. I had never seen a deer go that far after receiving a well placed rifle bullet.
So there you go, that's my opinion. You can't go wrong with a properly selected 165 grain bullet loaded between 2800 and 2900 FPS in a .30-06. Ofcourse there are other considerations: like, what weight does your rifle shoot best? My rifle prefers 165s, 180s are a close second, and 150s come in last. If one of those three weights (after trying various loads) does not shoot well, try another weighy, just make sure the bullet is matched to the game being hunted.
As a side note, I have not tried 220 grain bullets. The poor trajectory they provide is not well matched to where I hunt, wher shots can go from 50 to 400 yards.
Never hunted elk but w/deer I used the 180gr. Winchester Supreme Ballistic Tips. Also used the same 180gr. in my .300wsm.
I've never hunted elk either, but never the saw the need for anything larger than 150 grains for deer. Normally I shoot what's most accurate in my rifle. I had a Browning that shot the heavier bullets best, so that's what I used in it.
Don't know about elk but for whitetails and 100-300lb wild pigs, the 150gr kills those critters like lightning. I also dropped a 300lb aoudad sheep with this round from a paced off distance of around 170yds. In my experience...the 150gr does the job if you put it where it belongs.
I stick with the 150gr bullets (Nosler Ballistic Tips) and see no reason to change. I don't know about elk, though....no elk in Texas.
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