.22 LR Conversion kit

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  1. mwatson69

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    Has anyone heard anything recently about the 22 conversion kit for the XDs? I havent been able to find anything and its been over a yr since they were announced. Thanks for any info.
     
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    Never even heard of that, but it would be kinda cool :cool:
     
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    They need to just some out with an xd/m in 22cal.
     
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    That would be awesome! It would also be cool if they kept it full size...wonder how many rounds you could fit in one :)
     
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    For as long as I have been coming in here people have asked this question. There was some talk a few years back of someone making an aftermarket kit but it never materialized. I guess the tooling costs were too much. The problem is which gun would you make it for? Since Springfield has several different frame sizes, and new models keep coming out, it's a moving target as far as making an upper and magazine for the "most popular" and thus the most numerous version to be your market for a 22 conversion. I don't think it will happen unless Springfield does it themselves, and I wouldn't hold my breath on that since they seem to be selling all the guns they can make as it is.
     
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    I was just looking around for this the other day, got back from the gun shop and saw Sig’s versions and liked it. It looks like xdguys.com is working on one, but have no idea how long or when it will be available or how long that message was up for.
     
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    There ain't no such animal yet. I got tired of waiting over a year and ended up buying a Ruger MKIII
     
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    I know many people are asking for a single stack, 10mm, and others next. But, my choice is a 22 conversion. It is the obvious choice. It is a win for the shooters and a win for the company. This would be much more affordable to shoot your XDm as much as possible with real hand gun training. It would be free marketing for the company with many more shooters at the range displaying their XDms for longer periods of time. This is my clear request, which I believe to be warranted. What do you think?
     
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    Usually we do get what we want, when it is beneficial for the company. If this doesn't happen, then SA genuinely does no think it will benefit them finacially through a cost benefit analysis. I disagree. I think the 9mm XDm should have an optional included 22 conversion kit. This would reach out to everyone. I would pay a $200 extra over the price of a 9mm. Then, I would let everyone shoot it and I mean across the board, niece, nephew, friends kids, grandma, grandpa, girlfriend, train my son on it someday. This would put the XDm in more hands than any 10mm, single stack, or compact version ever could. Talk about marketing.
     
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    As AZXD pointed out on the referred website, the Glock kits are $325. Over my $200 standpoint. For that price, they should just make a 22 XDm. But, I still believe a limited edition 9mm with a 22 conversion kit for $825 would sell like hot cakes. But, I am not going to say that I have the information SA analyst have or it is not in the works already. They sure do have a tight lip overe there at SA. All I know is that this is a +1 for Block currently.
     
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    Its not a cost thing it is a reliability thing. A 22 conversion does exist but is not reliable for any length of time. The way the XD works will not allow it to use a 22lr. The slide is being pushed closed by the recoil spring which also puts tension on the striker in the opposite direction (single action fully cocked). When the round fires the recoil spring has to be weak enough for the slide mass to cycle and recock the striker, but strong enough to load a new round, lock up, and hold the striker back. You have fine tuned opposite forces that have to counter act each other. And the Striker spring has to be strong enough to reliably ignite the round.

    With Glock the Striker is only in partial tension the trigger pushes the the striker back when you pull the trigger. With an XD the striker when cock is always in full tension.
     
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    Very enlightening James. Sigh. Well, I am still in the market for a 22 handgun with a combat feel. None of that target crap. Just my opinion. I do love my Ruger 22 rifle with browning scope. I guess, it is the walther P22 for me.
     
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    I usually think a dedicated 22 handgun will be better than getting these conversion kits. A Walther P22 or Sig Misquito cost around $300.
     
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    Well, we didn't say it had to work exactly the same way as the current XD does... it just has to mount on the frame. Mechanically, something similar to the way the Ruger .22 pistol uppers operate would be suitable and doable, eliminating the "cock on closing" aspect of the regular XD types. Using only a short section of the slide but leaving the barrel and other mass in one place could do it. This is all a function of the upper design and does not really depend on the trigger group. Still, rimfire ammo does not require a huge hit from the firing pin, so it still might be doable the normal XD way but with a blowback action instead of the current delayed locking one.
     
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    Brass is still brass.

    AFAIK, 3 companies have tried to develop a 22 conversion for the XD, and couldn't get it to work properly.
    The external safety addition, complicated things, and the XDm complicated things further.

    I doubt you'll ever see a 22 conversion, although you might someday see a dedicated 22 that looks and feels like an XD/XDm.

    But in a market that is flooded with 22 pistols, it probably won't be a profitable venture for HS Produkt, and I seriously doubt SA will negotiate a new contract that would allow them to make a 22 clone.

    Heck,
    When was the last time SA made a 22, anything ?
     
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    I have the Walther P22 only because I got a great deal ($200) from a co-worker who only put about 200 rounds through it. Has 2 mags, case, and cleaning kit. And it SUCKS!!! It only likes CCI mini mags and even then, best it does is a FTF every 4th round, and never ever feeds the last one. Also have FTE about 1 in 20 rounds. My P22 is just a terrible pistol. And this is my judgment after putting about 1000 rounds through it. I'd recommend you look at Ruger or other brands but stay clear of the P22.
     
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    If they designed a .22 XDM that held more than 10-12 little bullets it would sell. I would like to see a rotary type mag with 20 rounds. The mag would still be wide like a double stack and the feel of it would replicate also. Wishful thinking....I know, but it would be awesome.
     

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