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**Loves2Shoot** · 02-22-2008, 01:22 PM

Post up your ugly worn out XD slides, the one that looks like it has seen the most use and abuse will be the winner of a free slide refinished in CRC IonBond.

This is to announce and promote our new gun coating service. Here is a little info about the CRC finish:

CRC IonBond is from the family of products commonly know are DiamondBlack, which is a carbon based PVD application.

This involves the depositing of diamond-like carbon coatings via a vacuum, and results in a finish that will provide years of protection against wear while retaining a nice appearance.

This matte/satin black finish is essential for tactical pieces and is a result of the carbon treatment. This stuff is super tough, the CRC Ionbond finish is 1500-2000 HV. Typical hard chrome finishes are generally 1050 HV and melonite is in the 700 HV range. As you can see, the CRC Ionbond finish is .5 – 2.5 times harder than common “tough” finishes.

This is not a self lubricating product, but CRC Ionbond does have some characteristic that could make you think it is. The CRC Ionbond finish absorbs oil and releases it over time due to the unique characteristics. CRC Ionbond also reduces the friction coefficient on the coated parts. Steel on steel has a typical friction coefficient of .7; Steel on CRC has a typical friction coefficient of .25; CRC on CRC has a typical friction coefficient of less than .2. For the math challenged, that means CRC Ionbond finished parts have 3.5 times less friction than untreated steel, so it does make the parts a lot more “slippery” and does improve the performance of parts that wear on each other.

CRC Ionbond’s unique application process makes it a finish that does not chip, crack or peel and is 2 microns in thickness. If you combine it with a electrolysis nickel plating, you have a finish that is virtual impervious to corrosion also.

OK, enough of the technical stuff (I'll have more information on our website on that soon enough) I want to see pictures, so post them up!

**XDONBOARD** · 02-22-2008, 01:30 PM

Any pricing info for those who's slides still look nice and want to preserve the look and longevity while reducing friction.

**Loves2Shoot** · 02-22-2008, 02:24 PM

Pricing will be on our website by Monday. It will be price competitive with hard chrome and "paint on" (ie. GunKote/DuraCoat) finishes, making the choice of finish coatings much simpler for folks.

As we gained approval "officially" to go forward with this on Thursday, we are still working on some of the finer details and will be posting more information soon, just keep an eye on our website.

A huge plus for us, is their facility is local to us and we will have no transportation issues or costs.

**Old School** · 02-22-2008, 02:44 PM

Based on the make up of IonBond and the samples, this finish is awesome. As Scott mentioned, it rivals hard chrome in both cost and durability, but it is black (=tacticool).

OS

**powder river** · 02-22-2008, 03:18 PM

sounds like some really good stuff.
what it the turn around time?

**Loves2Shoot** · 02-22-2008, 03:23 PM

Lead time will vary, but 2-4 weeks should be fairly typical.

This will contest will run for 3 weeks, so hopefully we'll get some folks to post some photos, as I want someone who is very hard on finishes to get this coating.

bigun · 02-23-2008, 06:34 AM

Can this be applied over stainless steel, if so I have a old milspec that I've been working on and this could solve a few small problems.

Bearcreek · 02-23-2008, 06:55 AM

Thinking of taking a hammer and sand paper to "rough up" my brand new XD slide... just so I can get a free refinish job

--- just kidding-- I am not a child abuser!

ichy_trigger · 02-23-2008, 08:10 AM

I already refinished mine

Heres what it DID look like though if refinishing doesnt exclude me...

**Loves2Shoot** · 02-23-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigun

Can this be applied over stainless steel, if so I have a old milspec that I've been working on and this could solve a few small problems.

Yes, we can do it on any standard steel or stainless.

Itchy,

Ugly is ugly, and some of the ugliest ones I've seen have been previously re-finished, so you are good to go.

02-22-2008, 01:22 PM	#1
Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,423	Ugly Slide Contest - Springer Precision Post up your ugly worn out XD slides, the one that looks like it has seen the most use and abuse will be the winner of a free slide refinished in CRC IonBond. This is to announce and promote our new gun coating service. Here is a little info about the CRC finish: CRC IonBond is from the family of products commonly know are DiamondBlack, which is a carbon based PVD application. This involves the depositing of diamond-like carbon coatings via a vacuum, and results in a finish that will provide years of protection against wear while retaining a nice appearance. This matte/satin black finish is essential for tactical pieces and is a result of the carbon treatment. This stuff is super tough, the CRC Ionbond finish is 1500-2000 HV. Typical hard chrome finishes are generally 1050 HV and melonite is in the 700 HV range. As you can see, the CRC Ionbond finish is .5 – 2.5 times harder than common “tough” finishes. This is not a self lubricating product, but CRC Ionbond does have some characteristic that could make you think it is. The CRC Ionbond finish absorbs oil and releases it over time due to the unique characteristics. CRC Ionbond also reduces the friction coefficient on the coated parts. Steel on steel has a typical friction coefficient of .7; Steel on CRC has a typical friction coefficient of .25; CRC on CRC has a typical friction coefficient of less than .2. For the math challenged, that means CRC Ionbond finished parts have 3.5 times less friction than untreated steel, so it does make the parts a lot more “slippery” and does improve the performance of parts that wear on each other. CRC Ionbond’s unique application process makes it a finish that does not chip, crack or peel and is 2 microns in thickness. If you combine it with a electrolysis nickel plating, you have a finish that is virtual impervious to corrosion also. OK, enough of the technical stuff (I'll have more information on our website on that soon enough) I want to see pictures, so post them up! __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com

02-22-2008, 01:30 PM	#2
XDONBOARD XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Peoria, AZ Posts: 3,318	Any pricing info for those who's slides still look nice and want to preserve the look and longevity while reducing friction. __________________ Michael XD-45 compact XD-40 sub-compact XD-9 sub-compact I'd rather have my XD and not need it, then need it and not have it.... I hereby certify that the person described hereon has been granted the privilege of carrying a concealed weapon in compliance with Arizona revised statute 13-3112.

02-22-2008, 02:24 PM	#3
Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,423	Pricing will be on our website by Monday. It will be price competitive with hard chrome and "paint on" (ie. GunKote/DuraCoat) finishes, making the choice of finish coatings much simpler for folks. As we gained approval "officially" to go forward with this on Thursday, we are still working on some of the finer details and will be posting more information soon, just keep an eye on our website. A huge plus for us, is their facility is local to us and we will have no transportation issues or costs. __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com

02-22-2008, 02:44 PM	#4
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,522	Based on the make up of IonBond and the samples, this finish is awesome. As Scott mentioned, it rivals hard chrome in both cost and durability, but it is black (=tacticool). OS __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

02-22-2008, 03:18 PM	#5
powder river XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 199	sounds like some really good stuff. what it the turn around time? __________________ www.powderriverprecision.com

02-22-2008, 03:23 PM	#6
Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,423	Lead time will vary, but 2-4 weeks should be fairly typical. This will contest will run for 3 weeks, so hopefully we'll get some folks to post some photos, as I want someone who is very hard on finishes to get this coating. __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com Last edited by Loves2Shoot : 02-22-2008 at 03:26 PM.

02-23-2008, 06:34 AM	#7
bigun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 2,333	Can this be applied over stainless steel, if so I have a old milspec that I've been working on and this could solve a few small problems. __________________ Remington Rand 1911A1, Kimber Pro CDP 2, Kimber Custom Target, Ruger mark2 Govt model with Bushnell Holo site, Beretta 92D 9mm, Kahr K-40, Coming soon Kimber Warrior or Springfield Operator.

02-23-2008, 06:55 AM	#8
Bearcreek XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 694	Thinking of taking a hammer and sand paper to "rough up" my brand new XD slide... just so I can get a free refinish job--- just kidding-- I am not a child abuser! __________________ Enter my home with peace in your heart- or leave with lead in your @$$!!--unknown but I like it.

02-23-2008, 08:10 AM	#9
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,403	I already refinished mine Heres what it DID look like though if refinishing doesnt exclude me... __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

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