Is the "Peacemaker" necessary? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

D-Bo · 09-03-2008, 12:47 AM

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The Richland County (S.C.) Sheriff's Department has acquired an armored personnel carrier complete with a turret-mounted .50-caliber belt-fed machine gun for its Special Response Team.
Sheriff Leon Lott told the Columbia State newspaper that he hoped the vehicle, named "The Peacemaker," would let the bad guys know that his officers are serious.
"We don't look at this as a killing machine," Lott told the paper. "It's going to keep the peace. We hope the fact that we have this is going to save lives. When something like this rolls up, it's time to give up."
The Peacemaker has a top speed of 30 mph.

S.C. Sheriff's Department Armored Vehicle with Belt-Fed Machine Gun - News - POLICE Magazine

Is there a suicide bomber/ RPG attack problem in South Carolina that I'm unaware of?

Chapie+ · 09-03-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Bo

Is the "Peacemaker" necessary?

NO, not if you got the guy in the white shirt. If you got him, you don't need anything else.....

Chapie+

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Originally Posted by D-Bo

S.C. Sheriff's Department Armored Vehicle with Belt-Fed Machine Gun - News - POLICE Magazine

Is there a suicide bomber/ RPG attack problem in South Carolina that I'm unaware of?

goodformeto · 09-03-2008, 12:58 AM

Is any gun necessary?

You're goin' down an ugly road with that question.
I do have to say that it's awful cool, and since it was proably picked up as surplus or decommissioned military equipment it was likely cheaper than the custom built LEO models. More bang for the buck!!!
If a big armored vehicle doesn't make people give up, but a few hundred rounds pointed in their general direction may, go with it.
If the gun doesn't work, sent the dude in white in.

**AZXD** · 09-03-2008, 01:01 AM

Special Response Team

Is that what they're calling a Police State these days

retired · 09-03-2008, 02:09 AM

If that doesn't work as a deterrent, nothing will.

**Frenchy** · 09-03-2008, 02:28 AM

Can you say "overkill"?...I know you can!

blefferd · 09-03-2008, 03:25 AM

seems a bit over the top for police use. a belt fed 50 cal mounted on top of an armored personal carrier is way over kill for any situation they could come accross against any civilian..
excessive use of force comes to mind

looks like a waste of tax payers dollars to me.

**godseviltwin** · 09-03-2008, 03:33 AM

i don't know about the turret on top of that thing, but i know a few counties around here have heavy APC's that were modded for swat. they are pretty cool and intimidating to see.

blefferd · 09-03-2008, 03:39 AM

i could see the APC but the belt fed 50. cal on top..

MGD 45 · 09-03-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by blefferd

seems a bit over the top for police use. a belt fed 50 cal mounted on top of an armored personal carrier is way over kill for any situation they could come accross against any civilian..
excessive use of force comes to mind

looks like a waste of tax payers dollars to me.

While I agree that a .50 cal seems to be overly powerful for 99.99% of all LEO use.....let's not forget there have been 2 different cases in this country where a psyco has stolen a tank or bulldozer and destroyed tons & tons of property. The cops had nothing powerful enough to stop the vehicles.......but I imagine a belt fed .50 cal would've helped!!

09-03-2008, 12:58 AM	#3
goodformeto XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 470	Is any gun necessary? You're goin' down an ugly road with that question. I do have to say that it's awful cool, and since it was proably picked up as surplus or decommissioned military equipment it was likely cheaper than the custom built LEO models. More bang for the buck!!! If a big armored vehicle doesn't make people give up, but a few hundred rounds pointed in their general direction may, go with it. If the gun doesn't work, sent the dude in white in. __________________ Maybe it is my fault; It's still your problem.

09-03-2008, 01:01 AM	#4
AZXD XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 16,637	Special Response Team Is that what they're calling a Police State these days __________________ . . Prepare for the worst scenario and hope for the best!!! Ignorance is curable, but stupidity is fatal. When one is prepared, it gives them peace of mind and eliminates the panic button which often leads to unnecessary waste and tragedy. The so-called "reasonable gun control" measures will take us all to the day when the last single-shot shotgun that grandpa owned is cut into pieces.

09-03-2008, 02:28 AM	#6
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 14,155	Can you say "overkill"?...I know you can! __________________ ~SC Harvey~ "My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office. Within 90 days, we will go back after kitchen table dealers, and work to end the gun show and internet sales loopholes. In the first year, I intend to work with Congress on a national no carry law, 1 gun a month purchase limits, and bans on all semi-automatic guns."--Barack Obama, VPC Fund Raiser, 2007

09-03-2008, 03:25 AM	#7
blefferd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 1,554	seems a bit over the top for police use. a belt fed 50 cal mounted on top of an armored personal carrier is way over kill for any situation they could come accross against any civilian.. excessive use of force comes to mind looks like a waste of tax payers dollars to me. __________________ ____________________________ NEF 20 Guage Parder Model (single shot) S&W 642 .38

09-03-2008, 03:33 AM	#8
godseviltwin XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: GEORGIA Posts: 1,403	i don't know about the turret on top of that thing, but i know a few counties around here have heavy APC's that were modded for swat. they are pretty cool and intimidating to see. __________________ Rest in peace Kenneth Peter Desverinine. 1928- November 21, 2008. You will be missed "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." ~Benjamin Franklin I might have guns, i might not. I can't seem to remember. Rule #1 Cover your ass first!!!! Rule #2 Make sure you survive the day.

09-03-2008, 02:09 AM	#5
retired XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S. Calif. Posts: 5,532	If that doesn't work as a deterrent, nothing will.

09-03-2008, 03:39 AM	#9
blefferd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 1,554	i could see the APC but the belt fed 50. cal on top.. __________________ ____________________________ NEF 20 Guage Parder Model (single shot) S&W 642 .38

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