SWAT Team Honored For Raid On Wrong House - Page 2 - XDTalk Forums

akmjolnir · 07-30-2008, 10:12 AM

I'd give the father a medal for protecting his family. I'd tell him to aim for the head next time.

The police dept. has no ground to stand on and those officers are in poor taste for accepting an award for not dying by their own stupidity and lack of planning.

"Hey officer, there's a bad guy at the bottom of this cliff. Jump off and get him."

"OK"

"Oh... wow, he lived, and that wasn't a bad guy, just a tourist. Hey! Let's give out medals."

Modificationvt · 07-30-2008, 10:22 AM

"The easy decision would have been to retreat under covering fire. The team did not take the easy way out," Dolan told the crowd. "This is a perfect example of a situation that could have gone horribly wrong, but did not because of the professionalism with which it was handled."

how did it not go wrong? they busted into the wrong house and exchanged fire with the owner...by some stroke of luck no one got killed...just because no one died doesn't mean it went right! It still went horribly wrong!

I understand the swat team was responding to bad information, so fiering them isnt needed, but giving them an award is just like sh!ting and throwing it in the home owners face!

LKB3rd · 07-30-2008, 11:38 AM

This is what happens under tyranny. I really hope that people wake up, and fast. These sorts of stories about police abuse with no consequences are becoming way too common.
Under tyranny, the purpose of the police isn't to enforce the law, but to terrorize people and make them afraid to speak up or criticize anything the government does. An award for breaking into an innocent person's house and exchanging gunfire with them is encouraging terrorizing citizens.
In a society where the police are to enforce the law, they would all be punished for this.

**Gravel** · 07-30-2008, 11:42 AM

Yup...

This is absolutely ****ing retarded!

**dreydin** · 07-30-2008, 12:15 PM

madness

Radio Relay · 07-30-2008, 01:05 PM

Not without precedent.

The FBI wanted to give medals and bonuses to the agents who were ordered by Bill Clinton, and Janet Reno to burn down the Branch Dividian compound, which killed over 80 people, including 21 children. The FBI claims that the awards were not approved.

That Father is lucky to be alive!

**UncleBuck** · 07-30-2008, 01:13 PM

IIRC this was a no knock raid right?

**nikon777** · 07-30-2008, 01:32 PM

Yeah...no knock raids can be a real problem. Their "gear' may have stopped buck shots, but the right .223 has a way of slipping through.

ThumperMX113 · 07-30-2008, 01:42 PM

So because they were given bad information they are the bad guys? Great logic ... I'm not sure why any awards were handed out but you can't criticize them because they aren't the ones who got the wrong information or the ones who handed themselves the awards ...

**newKid** · 07-30-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113

So because they were given bad information they are the bad guys? Great logic ... I'm not sure why any awards were handed out but you can't criticize them because they aren't the ones who got the wrong information or the ones who handed themselves the awards ...

i dont think anyone said that the SWAT team was to blame. . .just that they shouldnt be honored for it.

07-30-2008, 10:12 AM	#11
akmjolnir XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Live Free or Die, NH Posts: 1,331	I'd give the father a medal for protecting his family. I'd tell him to aim for the head next time. The police dept. has no ground to stand on and those officers are in poor taste for accepting an award for not dying by their own stupidity and lack of planning. "Hey officer, there's a bad guy at the bottom of this cliff. Jump off and get him." "OK" "Oh... wow, he lived, and that wasn't a bad guy, just a tourist. Hey! Let's give out medals." __________________ USMC '02-'06 "Knowing is half the battle. The other half is violence."
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07-30-2008, 10:22 AM	#12
Modificationvt XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington Vermont Posts: 1,661	"The easy decision would have been to retreat under covering fire. The team did not take the easy way out," Dolan told the crowd. "This is a perfect example of a situation that could have gone horribly wrong, but did not because of the professionalism with which it was handled." how did it not go wrong? they busted into the wrong house and exchanged fire with the owner...by some stroke of luck no one got killed...just because no one died doesn't mean it went right! It still went horribly wrong! I understand the swat team was responding to bad information, so fiering them isnt needed, but giving them an award is just like sh!ting and throwing it in the home owners face! __________________ Jade Lotus tattoo and piercing, 64 North St, Burlington Vt, 802-881-0305 12-8 seven days a week. If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so-Thomas Jefferson
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07-30-2008, 11:38 AM	#13
LKB3rd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT Posts: 1,122	This is what happens under tyranny. I really hope that people wake up, and fast. These sorts of stories about police abuse with no consequences are becoming way too common. Under tyranny, the purpose of the police isn't to enforce the law, but to terrorize people and make them afraid to speak up or criticize anything the government does. An award for breaking into an innocent person's house and exchanging gunfire with them is encouraging terrorizing citizens. In a society where the police are to enforce the law, they would all be punished for this.
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07-30-2008, 11:42 AM	#14
Gravel XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 2,896	Yup... This is absolutely ****ing retarded! __________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither. We must all fear evil men; But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.
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07-30-2008, 12:15 PM	#15
dreydin XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,025	madness
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07-30-2008, 01:05 PM	#16
Radio Relay XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,780	Not without precedent. The FBI wanted to give medals and bonuses to the agents who were ordered by Bill Clinton, and Janet Reno to burn down the Branch Dividian compound, which killed over 80 people, including 21 children. The FBI claims that the awards were not approved. That Father is lucky to be alive! __________________ "All gave some and some gave all. Some stood through, And some had to fall." USMC 68-71, RVN 69-70, 2831
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07-30-2008, 01:13 PM	#17
UncleBuck XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 3,085	IIRC this was a no knock raid right? __________________ "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" ~ Abraham Lincoln Die where you stand or live on your knees
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07-30-2008, 01:32 PM	#18
nikon777 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH. The Danger Zone. Posts: 9,138	Yeah...no knock raids can be a real problem. Their "gear' may have stopped buck shots, but the right .223 has a way of slipping through. __________________ Make a Democrat Angry. BUY A GUN!
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07-30-2008, 01:42 PM	#19
ThumperMX113 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 2,659	So because they were given bad information they are the bad guys? Great logic ... I'm not sure why any awards were handed out but you can't criticize them because they aren't the ones who got the wrong information or the ones who handed themselves the awards ... __________________ "SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM" XD9 Service Bi-Tone \| PRP Match Triger \| PRP Easy Fit Overtravel Stop \| Wolff Guide Rod #21 \| Factory Cleanup Walther P22 S&W M&P Subcompact 9mm RRA LAR15 Entry Tactical Tactical Innovations BDX15 & LMT 16"
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