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atmiller · 07-18-2008, 11:42 AM

How's that gun ban working for ya, Chicago?????

From the Chicago Tribune:
Weis says he's open to assistance from State Police, but National Guard wouldn't help

City's top cop avoids taking sides in public tangle between governor, mayor

By Angela Rozas
Chicago Tribune reporter
9:39 PM CDT, July 17, 2008

A day after Gov. Rod Blagojevich called Chicago's rising crime rate "out of control" and offered state manpower to help, Police Supt. Jody Weis carefully waded into the political fray Thursday on the city's behalf, saying reports on the uptick in crime have been exaggerated.

At a news conference, Weis walked a cautious line, avoiding laying blame, asserting that his department has a handle on crime but still welcoming assistance. The superintendent said any deployment of state police would need more discussion and planning, and the Illinois National Guard isn't likely to be on the way. Weis said the Guard doesn't have the police powers necessary to help fight crime in the city.

The governor's offer, which the administration said potentially involved using state troopers to patrol streets and National Guard helicopters to carry out surveillance, raised questions about whether it was more the result of a political struggle with Mayor Richard Daley rather than the need for more police.

Weis declined to comment on whether the governor's state police idea is part of that fight between two powerful Democrats.

"I go out of my way not to get caught in any type of political battle . . . I don't know," Weis said. "That's kind of between the governor and the mayor. We just try to do our job every day."

Blagojevich unveiled the idea of using troopers to reporters before he had broached the issue with Daley. The mayor didn't appear in public Thursday, letting Weis handle the topic. A statement from the governor's office said Blagojevich was happy Weis was considering the offer.

"We look forward to working cooperatively with the Chicago Police Department," the statement said. "The two departments have worked hand-in-hand on a number of other issues and have done so with great results. We expect this effort will not be any different."

Weis said the state police's investigative teams could be a help to the city. He also suggested the state recreate a gun-trafficking team that was disbanded before his tenure. In addition, Weis said it was possible state police could patrol some of city's neighborhoods, freeing up more of his patrol officers.

The city's top cop said he wanted to "put things in perspective" about Chicago's crime, reiterating his stance that the 13 percent rise in homicides, while a concern, is not the sign of a crime epidemic. If Chicago's homicide rate were to continue at the same rate, the city would still finish the year with fewer than 500 homicides. Though that may be higher than the last few years, that rate still would be among the lowest number of homicides in 40 years. Chicago's crime rate is similar to increases in other U.S. cities, he said, pointing out that they aren't resorting to using the National Guard.

Tribune reporters Monique Garcia and David Heinzmann contributed to this report.

arozas@tribune.com

Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune

tjg4 · 07-18-2008, 11:48 AM

You can take the guns away from the law-abiding but you cannot take the guns away from the criminals. When with these sh!theads ever realize that. They are saying, "You're life is not worth protecting if you are trying to protect it yourself."

crpadiem · 07-18-2008, 12:14 PM

Put those statistics up against the states where CC is legal and see how they look. Lawmakers just don't have a clue do they?

OkieShooterTM · 07-18-2008, 12:59 PM

Everytime I read or see something like this I think back to this... YouTube - John Stossel Links Gun Control to Higher Crime Rates

dreydin · 07-18-2008, 01:00 PM

/tag

countryrebel · 07-18-2008, 03:41 PM

Take away law abiding citizens guns and you get higher crime rate. They will not admit to it because then they would be admitting that they were wrong all along.

Ishpeck · 07-18-2008, 04:23 PM

In a place where the GOVERNMENT breaks the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, it stands to reason that crime would be rampant.

07-18-2008, 11:42 AM	#1
atmiller XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,103	Chicago crime rate "out of control" How's that gun ban working for ya, Chicago????? From the Chicago Tribune: Weis says he's open to assistance from State Police, but National Guard wouldn't help City's top cop avoids taking sides in public tangle between governor, mayor By Angela Rozas Chicago Tribune reporter 9:39 PM CDT, July 17, 2008 A day after Gov. Rod Blagojevich called Chicago's rising crime rate "out of control" and offered state manpower to help, Police Supt. Jody Weis carefully waded into the political fray Thursday on the city's behalf, saying reports on the uptick in crime have been exaggerated. At a news conference, Weis walked a cautious line, avoiding laying blame, asserting that his department has a handle on crime but still welcoming assistance. The superintendent said any deployment of state police would need more discussion and planning, and the Illinois National Guard isn't likely to be on the way. Weis said the Guard doesn't have the police powers necessary to help fight crime in the city. The governor's offer, which the administration said potentially involved using state troopers to patrol streets and National Guard helicopters to carry out surveillance, raised questions about whether it was more the result of a political struggle with Mayor Richard Daley rather than the need for more police. Weis declined to comment on whether the governor's state police idea is part of that fight between two powerful Democrats. "I go out of my way not to get caught in any type of political battle . . . I don't know," Weis said. "That's kind of between the governor and the mayor. We just try to do our job every day." Blagojevich unveiled the idea of using troopers to reporters before he had broached the issue with Daley. The mayor didn't appear in public Thursday, letting Weis handle the topic. A statement from the governor's office said Blagojevich was happy Weis was considering the offer. "We look forward to working cooperatively with the Chicago Police Department," the statement said. "The two departments have worked hand-in-hand on a number of other issues and have done so with great results. We expect this effort will not be any different." Weis said the state police's investigative teams could be a help to the city. He also suggested the state recreate a gun-trafficking team that was disbanded before his tenure. In addition, Weis said it was possible state police could patrol some of city's neighborhoods, freeing up more of his patrol officers. The city's top cop said he wanted to "put things in perspective" about Chicago's crime, reiterating his stance that the 13 percent rise in homicides, while a concern, is not the sign of a crime epidemic. If Chicago's homicide rate were to continue at the same rate, the city would still finish the year with fewer than 500 homicides. Though that may be higher than the last few years, that rate still would be among the lowest number of homicides in 40 years. Chicago's crime rate is similar to increases in other U.S. cities, he said, pointing out that they aren't resorting to using the National Guard. Tribune reporters Monique Garcia and David Heinzmann contributed to this report. arozas@tribune.com Copyright © 2008, Chicago Tribune __________________ NRA Life Member XD-40 Subcompact XD-9 Service with laser sight XD-9 Tactical XD-9 Tactical with Storm Lake Barrel, mag well, CobraChrome, Williams Firesights, Drop-In Sear and Trigger Bar XD-40 Tactical XD-40 Tactical with mag well, Don's Guide Rod & 22 lb. Spring XD-45ACP Tactical with thumb safety XD-45ACP Tactical with TLR-1 XDm-40 Bi-Tone with Don's Guide Rod

07-18-2008, 11:48 AM	#2
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07-18-2008, 12:14 PM	#3
crpadiem XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,204	Put those statistics up against the states where CC is legal and see how they look. Lawmakers just don't have a clue do they?

07-18-2008, 01:00 PM	#5
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07-18-2008, 03:41 PM	#6
countryrebel XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Idaho Posts: 128	Take away law abiding citizens guns and you get higher crime rate. They will not admit to it because then they would be admitting that they were wrong all along.