Will I Get Busted? (OH)

[ShadowMech]

Originally Posted by godseviltwin

wow that is dumb. are you sure its doesn't just apply to full auto's or all in you messed up state.

Many of the gun laws here are neanderthal-ish to say the least. Many of us are working to get them changed.

The CCW laws are poorly done but getting better. New legislation has passed and currently in the 90 day wait time that added castle doctorine, and we will now be innocent until proven guilty in a defense shooting, vs guilty until proven innocent like it is now. If someone is committing a felony or violent misdeamer, or would have been in the act, they or their family will not be able to sue you now in defense of yourself.

Oh and if you have a CCW from a state with reciprocity, make sure that gun is in a HOLSTER ON YOUR BODY, or in a case or compartment while in a motor vehicle. That is easily the thing to bust out of staters with.

Like I said, messed up but getting better. If anyoen is needing more help with the ohio laws or advice, a lot of good info can be found here: Ohioans For Concealed Carry :: Index

S.M.

[nikon777]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

ORC 2921.11 E states Quote:
(E) "Automatic firearm" means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. "Automatic firearm" also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.

Don't do it.

Yup, turns it into a machine gun. Crazy....

Oh well, Ill make due with a 17 rounder and a factory +2 extension. I just wanted one(33 rounder) for plinking and novelty.

[Carnivorous]

FYI it's a fifth-degree felony. The logic is convoluted, though:

1. It's a felony to own a "dangerous ordinance".

2. "Dangerous ordinance" is defined to include all firearms.

3. Specifically excluded from "dangerous ordinance" are all firearms that are not "automatic weapons" or sawed-off.

4. "Automatic weapons" are defined to include semi-automatic firearms that are "designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges".

So yes, 33-round mag = bad. Unless you're a LEO, in which case you're exempt.

[nikon777]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

FYI it's a fifth-degree felony. The logic is convoluted, though:

1. It's a felony to own a "dangerous ordinance".

2. "Dangerous ordinance" is defined to include all firearms.

3. Specifically excluded from "dangerous ordinance" are all firearms that are not "automatic weapons" or sawed-off.

4. "Automatic weapons" are defined to include semi-automatic firearms that are "designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges".

So yes, 33-round mag = bad. Unless you're a LEO, in which case you're exempt.

Yes Sir. No 33 rounder for me. Too bad, they look fun.

[mongoose33]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

ORC 2921.11 E states Quote:
(E) "Automatic firearm" means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. "Automatic firearm" also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges."

Don't do it.

Just to feed the fire here, it's clear from the above that your weapon is illegal, regardless of whether you use a 30-round or less mag or not. See, the weapon is *designed* to be able to do that, whether or not you actually do.

So get rid of it. PM me for my address.

On a more serious note, can anyone explain why that limit? Sometimes, these kinds of silly limits are the response to a particular instance, i.e., some nutjob who used a semi-auto handgun with a 33-round mag or some such. So to prevent such nutjobs from doing that in the future, make those larger mags illegal.

Yeah, that'll stop 'em. I can see it now:

BG: I was going to shoot up this bus station full of people, but since I only have 30 round mags, that's not enough.

[XDONBOARD]

You will now that you broadcast it on the web. You couldn't save it for private range shooting could ya.

[tomfoolery]

yeah, here in OH it is considered a dangetous ordinance or machine gun with more than 30 rounds.

i do not have any 40 round AK mags....shucks

my thought on the topic is this...keep the 33 rd. mag, keep it loaded even...just dont put it in your gun. Use it for SHTF situations, because by then i dont think they are going to come get you over it

[nikon777]

Well I dont actually have one, I just wanted to be legal if I decided to order one. At this point Im not willing to chance it. Better to just stay within the confines of the law. Its not worth the risk.

[Spawnz]

Just my 2 cents here. I am in Ohio and read the laws concerning 30 round magazines a few months ago. Don't remember where I found the law links at but this is what I came away with. If you are in possession of a magazine that holds more than 30 rounds and a semi-auto firearm that accepts that magazine, it doesn't matter if the magazine is loaded/unloaded or blocked. The mere possession of the magazine and a rifle/pistol capable of accepting the magazine makes it an automatic weapon according to the law. This would be similar to the federal laws in regard to the possession of parts required to convert a weapon to full auto. Even if you don't put the parts in the weapon to convert it, just having the parts in your possession is a violation of Federal law. At least that is the way I read it.

[sourpatch45]

why not just get a 30 round mag? or is that not an option?