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Old 06-16-2008, 07:19 PM   #41
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tinfoil hat time...i can't open any of the links. apparently i don't have permission. the feds are on to you...
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:29 PM   #42
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tinfoil hat time...i can't open any of the links. apparently i don't have permission. the feds are on to you...
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Old 06-16-2008, 10:17 PM   #43
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This definitely does not bode well...how will the world remember the United States? Will she go out with a whimper or a roar? This doesn't have to happen. When will we take our country back?
Too many wimps and people who don't care these days to do anything about it. So, it's pretty much over, and the Government knows it. It's been over for at least 30 years...
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:46 AM   #44
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Jesus F*****G Christ. Some people are totally stupid. This happens all the time. I read about it in Leatherneck all the time. It's urban combat training on the cheap.

Hell why don't you link to stories about how Army Special Forces are training to overthrow the US during their ROBIN SAGE phase of training.

Someone needs to slap some damn sense into some of you.

Anyone can take something out of context and spin the hell out of it so the Tinfoil beanie crowd gets all excited.

I could look at the police shootings here in Portland over the past couple of years and report it as this.

"Portland Police Exterminating African Americans!"
This ranks right up there with the "they are strengthening highway bridges to allow tanks to cross" flap from a few years ago.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:14 AM   #45
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Rule by fear or rule by law?

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"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."
Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.
According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."
Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of "new programs" require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?
Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist attack or any other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order."
The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike.
Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a "catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could include everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a single hearing on NSPD-51.
U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (HR1955), which passed the House by the lopsided vote of 404-6, would set up a commission to "examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative recommendations on combatting it.
According to commentary in the Baltimore Sun, Rep. Harman and her colleagues from both sides of the aisle believe the country faces a native brand of terrorism, and needs a commission with sweeping investigative power to combat it.
A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.
What could the government be contemplating that leads it to make contingency plans to detain without recourse millions of its own citizens?
The Constitution does not allow the executive to have unchecked power under any circumstances. The people must not allow the president to use the war on terrorism to rule by fear instead of by law.

Rule by fear or rule by law?
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Aren't white box cars where they store black helicopters?
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Aren't white box cars where they store black helicopters?
Believe it or not...I could care less!

Think of it like "Zombies", Most of us don't believe in the walking dead................

-But hey, It gives us a reason to buy another gun!!!




An EVIL BLACK RIFLE to battle the EVIL BLACK HELICOPTORS!!!!

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Old 06-17-2008, 04:53 AM   #48
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[Investigating a cattle mutilation]
Officer Barbrady: This is nothing out of the unusual. Cows turn themselves inside out all the time.
Farmer: People's been saying they've been seeing UFO's around.
Officer Barbrady: UFO's? Ha.
Farmer: Yeah, and black army, CIA helicopters and trucks.
Officer Barbrady: That is the silliest thing I've ever heard
[black helicopters fly overhead]
Farmer: What was that?
Officer Barbrady: That, that was a pigeon.
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Old 06-17-2008, 07:15 AM   #49
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It is good to know that us gun owning folks aren't paranoid.
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Where some see "paranoid". I see Careful.
And Careful never killed anyone.
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