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Old 06-07-2008, 03:05 PM   #11
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ROTFL!!!! My question is how come the guy is working in a gun shop and isn't on SA's pro team or the Army marksmanship unit??? Total BS!!!! Or he meant to say 30 instead of 300 yards?!
Seems everyone has about the same reaction as I do to the claims. This individual says he's a life member at Front Sight, which from what I hear has an excellent facility, and training, but? Come on.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:58 PM   #12
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just spit-balling here, but i don't think Front-Sight can instill you with the rare skill of hitting a target at 300 yards consistently with an XD 40 "all in the box"... hell, the instructors probably can't even do it.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:22 AM   #13
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Ok on a calm day off a bench with a 45XD or 45 PT1911 I can hit a 36" gong every shot after I zero in. The secret is there is spot about 4' above the gong that I aim at. It is fun, you can shoot and but the gun down on the bench before the bullet hits the gong. 300yds??? how big is "in the box". 36" maybe any less I agree BS. How what good does a TRICK like hitting a 200yd target off a bench do. It's a good laugh at best.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:56 AM   #14
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He must have meant "feet" not yards. If it was yards then it is Bovine Manure.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:59 AM   #15
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The 200-300 yard shot would have to be shown to me before I would believe it. The only long distance shot I have ever seen with my own eyes was from a buddy of mine in the army with a Sig P226 9mm hitting a silhouette target at almost a 50-60 yards. 15 out of 16 shots hit near the bottom of the target but none the less he hit it, I could get no where close with my 45.
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The 200-300 yard shot would have to be shown to me before I would believe it. The only long distance shot I have ever seen with my own eyes was from a buddy of mine in the army with a Sig P226 9mm hitting a silhouette target at almost a 50-60 yards. 15 out of 16 shots hit near the bottom of the target but none the less he hit it, I could get no where close with my 45.
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:26 PM   #17
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The silhouette range I frequent has people every weekend shooting handguns to 200.. with one hand (Creedmore).
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None of them are using semi-autos, or at least none that I've seen.
Lots of T/C and super custom stuff.
Amazing to watch nonetheless.
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In handgun silhouette shooting the ram, the longest and largest target, is at 200 yds/m. It not only has to be hit but knocked down. In the revolver class the major choice is .44 mag although guns from .357 magnum up will be seen. Don't know why but semi-autos have never caught on in silhouette shooting.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:43 PM   #19
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Well....I grew up reading Elmer Keith, Julian Hatcher, etc. If you don't know who Keith is, give yourself 40 lashes with wet noodle and then google him. Keith did things with a 44 magnum that made rifle shooters blush.

I had been playing at long range handgunning for 20 years, and then lucked into a big stretch of crop ground where we could shoot 600 yards and it was dusty enough to see the hits. We started shooting at white 5-gallon plastic buckets at 550, holding the front sight up above the rear notch and then centering the bucket on the top edge of the front sight. Gun was a 4" S&W 44 mag shooting 240 SWC's over healthy doses of H110. Those big bullets fly true WAY out there and it's sorta like field artillery. You fire for effect, adjust how much sight you're holding up, and fire again. I got to where I could hit the bucket 1-2 shots out of a cylinder; think the best I ever did was 3.

Later we propped up a pallet at the same spot and covered it with cardboard, and stapled two sheets of typing paper-one atop the other-in the center. I had a 1945 Ithaca 1911A1 that had been heavily accurized and we shot it too. To hit with a 1911 at that distance, I held the top edge of the rear sight even with the front edge of the ejection port, then used the front sight as described above. I hit the pallet 4 times from a magazine after a couple of warm-ups and yes, 45 hardball will shoot through oak pallet boards at that distance.

So I don't have much problem believing that an accomplished pistol shooter, with ample practice, can regularly hit say, a B27 at 300 yards. If he's saying that he can call his shots at that distance, as in 'low 9 ring'- I'd have to see it to believe it.
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5-gallon plastic buckets at 550
wait, wait ... 5 gallon buckets at five hundred fifty yards????

at 100 yards, a 5 gallon bucket looks to be, what, the size of a pea... if that?

what does that look like at 550 yards aiming at it with a pistol?
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